6.1 MSQ showcases the narrative problems that continue to plague the game's story

[TaleraRistain]

Why not? There is literally nothing stopping SE from doing so, except SE. There was a finality to the end of 6.0, they even said they don't want to be seen together. But what was the very first thing they did? One scion sure, but nearly all of them?

This is unfortunately one of the disservices in 6.1's presentation. It wasn't the first thing they did. It has been some time after 6.0 in 6.1, but they didn't convey that really at all and it was only mentioned in interviews. I can't recall if they said weeks or months. So at that point, we haven't seen these people for an extended time and we have all been off on our own pursuits that weren't shown, the WoL included.

[Ransu]

Why not? There is literally nothing stopping SE from doing so, except SE. There was a finality to the end of 6.0, they even said they don't want to be seen together. But what was the very first thing they did? One scion sure, but nearly all of them?

They could have easily put us in a situation where we meet some new companions. I mean, have you ever read a prologue before? Many authors will keep the main protagonist and put them in an entirely new situation because they can. They are the author, there are absolutely no literary rules stating, "When finishing one story, you must keep the same characters while introducing a new story".

Stop making excuses for poor writing, planning and execution. the white knighting has been one of the biggest detriments to this game and it's really showing.

Because its post patch content? This is how they have always done it. They have small story introductions with each patch that sets up the major story of the upcoming expansion. You're not going to get the meat of a story in a post expansion patch. That doesn't make it poor writing, its just you being impatient, but then again you're probably the same type of person that then complains about "lore dumps"

[aveyond-dreams]

Because its post patch content? This is how they have always done it. They have small story introductions with each patch that sets up the major story of the upcoming expansion. You're not going to get the meat of a story in a post expansion patch. That doesn't make it poor writing, its just you being impatient, but then again you're probably the same type of person that then complains about "lore dumps"

Less talking more doing things please. The budget that was blown on Estinien putting his foot on a balcony - which somehow was one of the most expensive scenes to make in Endwalker - should have been allocated to major events that aren't been shown on screen.

Anima transformation/summoning sequence?
The Hydaelyn vs Zodiark fight?
Hydaelyn or Zodiark's transformation seque-oh wait nevermind Y'shtola got one instead when she nearly went full Sailor Moon in 6.1 and the only thing missing was her saying "Moon prism power."

Goodness. Seeing the thing on screen will always be better than just another lore dump from Y'shtola or Urianger.

[MicahZerrshia]

Because its post patch content? This is how they have always done it. They have small story introductions with each patch that sets up the major story of the upcoming expansion. You're not going to get the meat of a story in a post expansion patch. That doesn't make it poor writing, its just you being impatient, but then again you're probably the same type of person that then complains about "lore dumps"

We were told new story, new companions and neither of these were new. They could have done plenty, there was nothing stopping them from having us being introduced to new npcs by that dude at the bar or the other dude at the bar, or from the leader of Rad at Hans. But they defaulted back to old characters. And its fine, we could have met with a few scions for some more info or something. But they did the exact opposite of what they said they were going to do and ppl are still making excuses for them. And talking about it is like talking to a wall since so many ppl take it personal. Guess what, its not. We want this game to do well because we actually care about it, which is why we are all sitting here talking about what they could have done different and questioning why they did it the way they did.

We complain because we care, which is something I am having a hard time believing SE does or the ppl who want to defend all their decisions to the death. But hey, if you insist this game's story be a half baked manga, it looks like you are going to get your wish.

[RobynDaBank]

I have a feeling at least some number of people seeing 6.1 as hollow played at least a few expansions consecutively, much time after the post-patches were out. When I think about it, I can't remember any x.1 patch story being memorable. The best crescendos were always in x.3, last hurrah for an expansion until the story moved on to setup the next one.

[Lily_Skye]

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[Roflcopter]

you CAN use the aetherytes. that is one of the things they changed in 6.1

you can now use aetherytes and mounts (if in an area that allows them) without losing your escort as long as you stay in the same zone as you picked them up.

I didn’t realize that. That is great! Those quests are annoying as hell otherwise.

[Roflcopter]

I have a feeling at least some number of people seeing 6.1 as hollow played at least a few expansions consecutively, much time after the post-patches were out. When I think about it, I can't remember any x.1 patch story being memorable. The best crescendos were always in x.3, last hurrah for an expansion until the story moved on to setup the next one.

It is at least pretty clear where we are heading in 6.1 and what the next expansion is likely to involve. World hopping is almost certainly
In the cards.

[DisAstranagant]

I think part of the problem is that Yoshi-P likes to talk big and get peoples hopes up, as a marketing strategy. "It's the end of a 10-year saga!", "It's the end of season one and we're starting the second one!". After hearing this I got slightly excited (silly of me, I should have known better!) thinking that maybe we can finally move away from the scions and that the focus would shift to past characters who haven't had MSQ-relevance before, or even brand new ones... but then everything seems to continue just like usual. There really was no need to market it this way and I think some of the people in this thread would have been less disappointed if they didn't, but hey they got to generate that hype.

Of course there are still patches left until 7.0 and I would be very glad to be proven wrong!

[Roflcopter]

I think part of the problem is that Yoshi-P likes to talk big and get peoples hopes up, as a marketing strategy. "It's the end of a 10-year saga!", "It's the end of season one and we're starting the second one!". After hearing this I got slightly excited (silly of me, I should have known better!) thinking that maybe we can finally move away from the scions and that the focus would shift to past characters who haven't had MSQ-relevance before, or even brand new ones... but then everything seems to continue just like usual. There really was no need to market it this way and I think some of the people in this thread would have been less disappointed if they didn't, but hey they got to generate that hype.

Of course there are still patches left until 7.0 and I would be very glad to be proven wrong!

It looks like we will probably be tasked with cleaning up the 13th like we did the First. The twelve and the thirteenth are likely Unsundered turned primals like Hydaelyn. Something about cleaning up the 13th to unite the worlds again, etc., etc… I’m sure Emet Selch will show up as our Morgan Freeman to explain the plot at some point.