Suggestion - An Alternate Start [Light, Vague 6.1 Spoilers Included]

[TaleraRistain]

On that coin, if we went my suggestion, sure, the WoL has connections to Azem but is *not* Azem themselves. You could give a new adventurer Azem's crystal (whether it was given to you or found in this proposed 1-hour-intro) but they won't know the true nature about it unless they read into it or focus on it, they'd just know it was important and maybe some minor dialogue would explain what it was used for and who it used to belong to. It on its' own does not identify the WoL's character, just a sundered past life of theirs.

The WoL is the current reincarnation of the sundered version of Azem from the Source. A new character who isn't the WoL wouldn't be that and we don't know where the devs might take that in the future. Also, the relationships we have not just with the Scions but people around the world are the result of the journey of the WoL. Cid, for instance, is not going to look upon a new adventurer with the same trust as he would the WoL who helped him remember who he was. The WoL gets involved in so much now because those relationships are well developed. You can't just slot in someone new like trading in Darrins in Bewitched and expect the story would just continue on like nothing was different.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Seems a lot of people in this thread either ignored the Future of FFXIV PLL or didn't watch it, as Yoshida said in the future they will give players the option to start from 6.1 when creating a new character. This is why the Unending Codex exists.

[Mirhd]

The WoL is the current reincarnation of the sundered version of Azem from the Source. A new character who isn't the WoL wouldn't be that and we don't know where the devs might take that in the future. Also, the relationships we have not just with the Scions but people around the world are the result of the journey of the WoL. Cid, for instance, is not going to look upon a new adventurer with the same trust as he would the WoL who helped him remember who he was. The WoL gets involved in so much now because those relationships are well developed. You can't just slot in someone new like trading in Darrins in Bewitched and expect the story would just continue on like nothing was different.

This... and there's absolutely no way to sensibly explain how some rando ended up with Azems' (our) crystal. Iscah's post on just giving people a one-time skip for those who want it but maintaining the narrative of what came before is the most reasonable. Those people who skip will be lost storywise and will have to catch up another way, but that's their choice to make. There's zero reason for the devs to toss a story they spent years on for a completely new starting point, and somehow explain how/why you just happen to end up working with all these major figures and the needed dialog changes that come with them. People seem to underestimate what a mess that would be, and I don't see it being worth the dev time when they could be working on something actually worth while.

Seems a lot of people in this thread either ignored the Future of FFXIV PLL or didn't watch it, as Yoshida said in the future they will give players the option to start from 6.1 when creating a new character. This is why the Unending Codex exists.

Pretty sure the devs said nothing about a completely new character, as in, not the original WoL. A skip while maintaining the narrative is far more likely.

[Rannie]

This is actually what was said

The Unending Codex is still in the planning phase, but within the next ten years, we may eventually need something that allows people to play the game without starting from the very beginning, which is what we’re preparing for with this feature. If possible, we’re hoping to include entries on important lore concepts such as aether and the six elements.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5874863

[IdowhatIwant]

No. The players who buy level skips already have a portion who don't bother to do the basic part of learning their class. This would just get worse if players were allowed a free level boost for free.

Yoshi P has already sad the leveling does not teach people how to play there class. So he basically confirmed boosting isn't a factor the game just sucks at teaching anyone how to play.

Seems a lot of people in this thread either ignored the Future of FFXIV PLL or didn't watch it, as Yoshida said in the future they will give players the option to start from 6.1 when creating a new character. This is why the Unending Codex exists.

The only problem is 6.1 doesn't feel like a starting point, but it kinda could be a starting point. The biggest mistake was bringing the scions back in for 6.1 IMO because they will just confuse players coming in. Granted I guess the unending codex could help with that, I did not mess with it much but I don't think he really had a whole lot in it. Also I guess he backed off on his previous statement back in ShB when they gave us a roadmap of 6.0-6.5 where we would be introduced to a new character and traveling partner in 6.1, and depending on feed back they would decide to keep this character or not.

[hagare]

That isn't even fully true for 1.0 anymore. If you run the Coils of Bahamut even if you started in 2.0 you were acknowledged as one of the heroes of Cartenau, it's just only Legacy players got the MSQ cutscenes.

Legacy players have different cutscenes than ARR players.
Their "start" is different.
And in the end of prae cutscene if you're legacy, they will have their memories restored and remember you as one of the Warriors of light.
ARR ones don't get that. They are just said to be the warriors of light reborn.

The new journey saga might be a fresh start for new players.
For their own start of the story.
It's a good fresh starting point.
You could be a new adventurer. You could be a vet.
It just works.

If you run the Coils of Bahamut even if you started in 2.0 you were acknowledged as one of the heroes of Cartenau, it's just only Legacy players got the MSQ cutscenes.

Which cutscene is this part of again?
Tbh, I don't really remember.
Besides, being in cartenau is not the same as being one of the warriors of light.

This is actually what was said



https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5874863

so instead of a new person, the new character will be continuing the story.
Just from the new journey. I guess that can work.
Now instead of playing the game, we can read about it. YAY. xD
Maybe they should just give them an NG+ of Season 1.
Oh man. WoW flashbacks. To understand this expansion's story, you will need to read this novel. At least 14 will have it in game xD

[Mirhd]

Legacy players have different cutscenes than ARR players.
Their "start" is different.
And in the end of prae cutscene if you're legacy, they will have their memories restored and remember you as one of the Warriors of light.
ARR ones don't get that. They are just said to be the warriors of light reborn.

The new journey saga might be a fresh start for new players.
For their own start of the story.
It's a good fresh starting point.
You could be a new adventurer. You could be a vet.
It just works.


Which cutscene is this part of again?
Tbh, I don't really remember.
Besides, being in cartenau is not the same as being one of the warriors of light.

The legacy scenes are lit just a bonus for 1.0 players. For narrative story purposes, we are the exact same person.

[hagare]

The legacy scenes are lit just a bonus for 1.0 players. For narrative story purposes, we are the exact same person.

the cutscene says otherwise
We do most things the same after ARR. But we're not the same.
Then again, the difference is so small you might as well be the same.

[Zaniel]

Perhaps people should start considering it content instead of a roadblock. If you walked into the store tomorrow and saw a new RPG game with "1,000 hours of content" you would be stoked and buy that in the blink of an eye.

[Mirhd]

the cutscene says otherwise
We do most things the same after ARR. But we're not the same.
Then again, the difference is so small you might as well be the same.

Which, again, is why it's just a bonus, otherwise there would be far more differences than not.