I took a look at the Japanese lore forums again, still uneventful except for one hot take thread where the person didn't like Elpis at all. Despite my disagreeing with most of what they wrote, they did think Kairos was BS (as did most of the respondents) and were irritated at the lack of diverse dialog options throughout EW.

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We could assume that it's after since Themis mentions Azem being aware of us but since we are still unaware of how Azem manages to know everything we do before we do it, that might not mean anything either.
I will flip tables if they write Azem as knowing about the sundering and their future, sundered self.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ FLIP THAT TABLE. ┻━┻ ︵ ヽ(°□°ヽ) FLIP THIS TABLE. ┻━┻ ︵ ＼\('0')/／ ︵ ┻━┻ FLIP ALL THE TABLES!

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When this was a major driving force behind the entirety of the last expansion pack, you'll have to forgive me for having doubts when I am suddenly told that fixed time loops are now the only possible way forward.

The first thought that came into my head is Venat developed a crush on the WoL and had to ensure the timeline played out as it did so she could see them again. -_-