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    LiddyGhu's Avatar
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    Renyci L'fay
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    Behemoth
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    i fail to see why this is a "problem" at all. white mage now has something actually interesting to optimize beyond the previous "chad your cohealer as much as possible".[...]
    Hi QooEr, I read your post, and I have to say I disagree. I did not mention in my OP that the WHM would be blowing lilies during raid buffs, and the issue I was mostly trying to point out is that the design of white mage's misery mechanics are very skewed when it comes to downtime.
    The reason this is a problem is not because it gives the WHM something to optimize, the problem is that the way the WHM optimizes Lilies is often to force your other healer to GCD heal instead, since the Lily is worth more potency during downtime than their nuke during uptime. This is the problem I have playing with white mage, as a healer pair. I am saying that I do not want to play Scholar along with a White Mage because their Lily dumping during downtime is SO strong now, that it's more than Broilja, and thus asks the Scholar to use Succor in place of a white mage using that Lily for healing. It's a net potency gain of at least 15 potency, and a little more with raid buffs in mind, which isn't much, but it's still optimal. It actively discourages me from playing Scholar together with a White Mage, because I know that I am destined to be in this situation many times. It is not fun for me to play next to.
    And, for the record, there is nothing to optimize between "maybe I needed that lily for healing instead of moving"-- if you can use it when you can't cast glare, it is ****ALWAYS**** stronger to use it when you cannot cast glare, as detailed in the second half of my OP.
    //edit; and I mentioned in the OP as well that I do think the changes were coming from the right place, but the execution of the Lily system has problems that I believe should be adjusted. Not asking for it to be nerfed or reverted, I think it needs changes. It's "better than it was before" because WHM can heal sometimes now, but in a few ways it is worse for me to play Scholar next to, which is what this post is really about.
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    Last edited by LiddyGhu; 04-20-2022 at 07:09 AM. Reason: grammar