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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    I didn't claim you were stamping your feet. I said that Yoshi did addresss it, and asked for people's opinions.

    You can provide that opinion respectfully to Yoshi through the forums, or you can try to fight me, taking your frustrations out. The second option isn't the productive one. Especially as I have always hoped (and am strongly on record of) my dear, dear Hroth friends get all their dreams and the
    hair they desire.

    Arguing and saying irrelevent stuff isn't helpful.

    Yoshi admitted he messed up and was taken by surprise, and now asks. So respectfully tell yoshi what you want. Don't lash out at me.



    In the patch reading before 6.1



    I am also going to add the translator's note. Please do read it as it is important culturally for your opinion to be respected. The bolding is theirs.
    Shibi -

    Please point out the part where he says "Sorry" or "We messed up."
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    Guys, why are you attacking me constantly? I am trying to be helpful and I am a strong ally of you. How about chill, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelev View Post
    Shibi -

    Please point out the part where he says "Sorry" or "We messed up."
    He hasn't said sorry, he's asked for people's opinion on which way to go now. You can do that respectfully, or not. I can't do it, as i don't play a hroth, even if I have a lot of Hroth friends and admire them all and want to help them!

    As far as the show us where he says he messed up, this is it

    やっぱり耳がないのはどうなのという声が多くて… うんんん…ここちょっと悩んていて、今
    Just everyone, stop attacking the messenger please, thats how you lose an ally. I know youse are all frustrated, but it' not my fault. Sheesh.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As far as the show us where he says he messed up, this is it
    Just everyone, stop attacking the messenger please, thats how you lose an ally. I know youse are all frustrated, but it' not my fault. Sheesh.
    You posted a bunch of Japanese that translates to “ After all, there are many voices saying that it's not good to have ears ... Yeah ... I'm a little worried here, now”

    That’s not “We messed up.”
    That’s not “I’m sorry.”
    That’s not “We’re gonna fix it for you in X timeframe.”
    That’s not good customer service.
    That’s not empathetic.

    When you say “Stop attacking me,” please understand “you’re going to have to cite your source, here” isn’t an attack.

    It’s a request you show me where you got the information you did. If that sounds like an attack to you, Wikipedia must give you night-terrors.

    The OP’s comment which is that “Housing gets greater visibility than Hrothgar anything is inherently defensible, which the OP does.

    In addition, while “Some of your best friends are Hrothgar” I, personally, would like to just like to hear something less in line with “I’m torn” or “I need feedback.” The community has given plenty of feedback. 1,447 replies on the Hrothgar Haircut thread, 997 on the complaint megathread alone.

    So, when you say “he said he messed up,” you’re going to have to point out where, exactly, that happened, because telling people you’re being attacked when you’re not just isn’t helpful.
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    Also, the statement “We have other voices saying it’s not good to have ears” is not only not “We messed up,” it’s a defense - kind of the opposite of an apology.

    So it’s one thing to shoot the messenger for the message.

    It’s another thing when we ask you to cite your source and you’ve not just misquoted the message, you’ve said the exact opposite, and then edited the post I quoted for some reason or another.

    So if asking you to back your message up qualifies as an attack and/or loses you as an ally, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

    Lemme know if you need a translation of that.

    -Kelly
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