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  1. #21
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    Exactly because at the end of the day people just want a place to call thier own AND have substantial space to decorate. Not some tiny room FC's use as storage
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  2. #22
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    Uh huh, yeah just so you know last time they added wards to the game my FC tried to get a house. We logged in within 10 mins of the patch being done and every single large in the server was taken. All fucking 60 of them. We had the money, we were there fast, we just didn't get it because of internet ping. Fucking *lag* lost us our chance at a house. I assure you those people are not lying lmao.
    Even without taking bots and 3rd party tools, mediums and large houses are in high demand across all NA servers.

    There are people/FCs who only wanted mediums/larges even while there were hundreds of smalls vacant in older housing additions.

    The fundamental question, we should be asking, is why does SE persist with artificial scarcity through the limited ward housing system?

    Access to the ward housing system has been a failure for nearly 10 years now.

    If XIV had a fully instanced housing system like other major MMOs, maybe everyone could have a medium/large.
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  3. #23
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    Colt47's Avatar
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    Kan Himaa
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxman09 View Post
    Exactly because at the end of the day people just want a place to call thier own AND have substantial space to decorate. Not some tiny room FC's use as storage
    To be fair, the rooms are not really tiny, just the systems they have for decoration were never sophisticated enough to enable the full use of the space. It was built with the idea of throwing down useful items in a fairly standardized area rather than someone trying to divide it into two floors or add a loft that also has items on it. It probably wouldn't hurt if they improved that aspect since it would make things a lot nicer for the apartments and FC rooms. Not that it does much to resolve the housing issues but still.
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  4. #24
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    Fray Margrace
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Even without taking bots and 3rd party tools, mediums and large houses are in high demand across all NA servers.

    There are people/FCs who only wanted mediums/larges even while there were hundreds of smalls vacant in older housing additions.

    The fundamental question, we should be asking, is why does SE persist with artificial scarcity through the limited ward housing system?

    Access to the ward housing system has been a failure for nearly 10 years now.

    If XIV had a fully instanced housing system like other major MMOs, maybe everyone could have a medium/large.
    There's no reason they shouldn't. Housing is not some high end hardcore raid. It's a casual laidback feature that you enjoy in your spare time. There's no reason for it to be so difficult to get the kind of house you want.
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  5. #25
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    Astelon Syth
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    Quote Originally Posted by KikiTia View Post
    There's no reason they shouldn't. Housing is not some high end hardcore raid. It's a casual laidback feature that you enjoy in your spare time. There's no reason for it to be so difficult to get the kind of house you want.
    Exactly! There are people like me who don't have the mental capacity to handle savage raids or ultimates because of the stress they cause, so we just want to enjoy a casual experience! even if it's instanced, I just want my own space to decorate how I want without feeling like I'm living in a closet!
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    Rhea Seren
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    Gunbreaker Lv 92
    As an addition, yeah.

    Instanced housing (with size equivalents to the proper houses) would be amazing but I enjoy strolling around the wards alot too.

    So removing that wouldn't be an option!

    They're currently doing more for housing than ever before, so it's just a matter of time. But be careful what you wish for e.g. Lottery.

    Also, just removing a feature for a different one entirely rarely is a good thing.
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  7. #27
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Quote Originally Posted by IckeDerTyp View Post
    As an addition, yeah.

    Instanced housing (with size equivalents to the proper houses) would be amazing but I enjoy strolling around the wards alot too.

    So removing that wouldn't be an option!

    They're currently doing more for housing than ever before, so it's just a matter of time. But be careful what you wish for e.g. Lottery.

    Also, just removing a feature for a different one entirely rarely is a good thing.
    Yes, fully instanced housing as an addition to existing ward housing.

    SE, it's long past time to recognize that limited ward housing is a failure in terms of access.

    As server populations increase, limited ward housing is not a scalable solution. We see this on NA servers especially. No matter how many new wards SE adds, there's constantly a severe supply shortage.

    Limited ward housing also consumes more server resources than fully instanced housing. There's a reason other major MMOs with player housing go down the fully instanced route.

    The neighborhood feel is also a poor justification. Having owned houses in all residential areas on Balmung, I barely saw my neighbors. Maybe twice a year.

    Every solution that SE has implemented to fix this broken mess of a system has resulted in it becoming even harder for players to obtain a ward house.

    SE, why do you persist in doubling down on this failure, that has now gone on for nearly 10 years?

    SE, please improve on existing solutions like apartments. Let us upgrade apartments for gil into penthouses.

    Also, perhaps make Island Sanctuaries into viable alternatives for ward housing.

    Improved apartments/Island Sanctuaries might reduce the demand on ward housing.

    Yes, by all means keep the existing ward housing for players who want to fight it out for 'exclusive/flex' houses.

    But for everyone else who just wants a house their friends can visit etc, please SE, fully instanced housing is long past due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    It's simply this:





    /thread
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  9. #29
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    Vai Vilthuril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_Bap View Post
    /thread

    This thread is about the current housing problem and how it's messed up, not how things were on September 16, 2014. Jesus lol
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  10. #30
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    Bigbap Ramirez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masenko View Post
    This thread is about the current housing problem and how it's messed up, not how things were on September 16, 2014. Jesus lol
    The reason it is still messed up is because of that update though.
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