To Devs about Adventurer Plates

[kaynide]

It is irrelevant if this is specifically mods or not; they do not want the obscene screenshots. They have been clear that they don't want the game to get bad press for outside activity or in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ting_strongly/

You can't possibly believe in this day and age that the game devs do not care about what could explode into a bad news story and cause age ratings to change and potentially a loss of revenue.

[Luin]

It is irrelevant if this is specifically mods or not; they do not want the obscene screenshots. They have been clear that they don't want the game to get bad press for outside activity or in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ting_strongly/

You can't possibly believe in this day and age that the game devs do not care about what could explode into a bad news story and cause age ratings to change and potentially a loss of revenue.

The post you linked is concerning edited screenshots.

Provide 1 link that shows them actioning an account for Obscene screenshots that isn't using mods or editing.

These are all material usage violations. Read this document. https://support.na.square-enix.com/r...la=1&tag=authc

Adventurer plates are not modded.

Adventurer plates are not edited.

Everything in the adventurer plates are available in-game.

It's extremely relevant. Here's what the Prohibited Activities page says

"Please note that Square Enix may issue a penalty at its discretion even if a report has not been filed but the act was found being conducted in public areas such as Say and Shout, search comments, Party Finder, on online video/streaming services, if the behavior is found to violate real world laws, or if it may be considered a problem based on the game's entertainment board ratings."

These cases you're linking are posting edited screenshots with SE copyright. That's a materials violation, and advertises potentially harmful content that isn't in the game.

Anything possible in the Adventurer Portraits is possible in the rest of the game though.

lol no they don't have to be deemed inappropriate outside of the portraits. here's a simple reason why - you can't really frame yourself holding your manhood in the game outside of the portraits the way you can with the plate. sure you can say "but gpose" but you can't interact with people's screenshots unless they're posted outside of the game.

fishing poles, bikinis, or whatever aren't inherently inappropriate, it's the way people pose themselves with it. why blame the items because people can't control their degeneracy?

The poses are available in-game, everything possible inside a Plate is possible in the rest of the game. You can absolutely 'frame' yourself holding a fishing rod while in a bikini. Now, suddenly anybody fishing with a bikini is considered inappropriate? Or is it just because they're in a Portrait? If I wear 2B leggings and use /pose, is that suddenly inappropriate? What if I'm right in front of a Lalafell? What if I screenshot that? What if I'm streaming? What if another player is in first-person camera?

Anything can be found inappropriate by anybody.

[Padudu]

The poses are available in-game, everything possible inside a Plate is possible in the rest of the game. You can absolutely 'frame' yourself holding a fishing rod while in a bikini. Now, suddenly anybody fishing with a bikini is considered inappropriate? Or is it just because they're in a Portrait? If I wear 2B leggings and use /pose, is that suddenly inappropriate? What if I'm right in front of a Lalafell? What if I screenshot that? What if I'm streaming? What if another player is in first-person camera?

Anything can be found inappropriate by anybody.

I guarantee you that you would probably not be able to achieve those results of the lewd plates without heavily going through g-pose lol, just because the poses are available in the game doesn't really mean anything other than the fact that people abused the poses/items to frame their plates in a sexual manner.

And notice how it's never really been a problem either way until we had a way to interact with people's gpose through the plates. :P

edit: replying to your edited bit - again unless you're g-posing it'd be harder. Surely you can see how /pose in 2b tights vs. a still picture of you mooning the camera or simulating you giving a handy andy are very different things? Sure what's inappropriate can be subjective, but call me the optimist on believing that a reasonable person would be able to tell you which one is blatantly inappropriate in my above example lol.

the rest of your examples just don't really matter tbh lol.

[kaynide]

The post you linked is concerning edited screenshots.

Which, again, would not have been an issue if they were not of lewd/inappropriate nature. The entire point of that talk was that SE did not want to be held liable for players making inappropriate pictures and posting them as if they were some kind of official image. They don't care in the slightest when people make fashion pictures like the Eorzea Collection.

The dev position has been fairly consistent on these kinds of things across the board, so it shouldn’t be hard to extrapolate their position here. They have always been a “as long as it doesn’t get us in trouble or irritate others it should be fine”.

Their music system doesn’t allow for copyrighted music, but they don’t really care as there hasn’t been a problem. This has mostly been a non issue because most people consider songs as covers.

Lewd stuff however has been more strict, such as bans for brothel ads or the Twitter pic removal.

Seems obvious to me they are trying to keep the game clean looking and less likely to result in scrutiny by lawmakers etc which -again- is a potential loss of significant revenue.