Hissatsu: Kaiten

[MiaShino]

Was making character on Primal a mistake? Am beginning to feel that it was.

[Roxus]

So, what you're saying is it's not false. Just that more voices spoke up since the creation of that other thread.

I would be interested in reading your source. Unless of course, you speak/read Japanese, then no link is necessary. I'll just take your word for it.

I do in fact speak/read Japanese. It's not the best but it's good enough to communicate. You can simply view the megathread over in the JP section of this forum, under the DPS section. The part where its claimed to be accepted was before they actually knew of any number changes.

[ThivraK]

Was making character on Primal a mistake? Am beginning to feel that it was.

have you seen the state of primal DF lately? it's been the worst it has ever been, even worse than pre-EW

[Clkid611]

Kaiten gave sam a unique feeling to the class. it also allowed for some decision making on your rotation. Please dont remove that. i dont agree with the reasoning because you couldve just upgraded shoha and shoha 2 to be an aoe with damage fall off like other moves youve done this expansion. spirits within is a perfect example. you couldve also mixed ikishoten into one set of buttons following a pattern like the confitor combo. Kaiten doesnt seem to be the problem in my opinion. Please reconsider other ways. end all i feel youre changing the feel of samurai with the removal of kaiten

[SaeMitsuha]

I don't often post on the forums, but I feel that I have to voice out on this issue.

As a long time SAM player/main since Stormblood was released, I have to say that removing Kaiten is not it. After trying it out, the flow of combat just seems to be a lot less smooth than before. Also the potency changes to make the dps not spike as much makes the big moves hit like a wet noodle. The reason why I played SAM was to have big spike windows where you can deal big damage. Now the new dmg curve makes me fall asleep cause all skills dmg feel exactly the same. There is no IMPACT.

Well anyways, its just really simple. As can be seen with most posts on the forum, I would suggest to revert the changes as SAM was already in a good spot. If anything the more urgent class to overhaul is MCH cause it is really suboptimal compared to the rest of the dps classes in terms of what it can offer.

As for the future, if things are kept as is, hardcore SAM players like me will just switch classes as much as we love the class, as there are much better substitutes that will not screw the party over if planning to prog in the new ultimate. Really disappointing changes to the loyal SAM base as a whole.

[MiaShino]

have you seen the state of primal DF lately? it's been the worst it has ever been, even worse than pre-EW

Pfffff aye most unfortunately. My partner was messing around on our PS4 account when for the first time (and our luck tis fricken awful) we encountered the infamous "Do not tell me how to play" tank. Not only did they refuse to use cooldowns despite many many pleas from monk of all the people, they would not aoe.

The monk was being most cordial too! Something close to; "Using aoes will help you to maintain aggro on all enemies" nothing hostile at all. This was Keeper of the Lake so you expect encountering new players there. This tank had full blown baby rage meltdown and even shirked the healer to death. The healer was not even the one who spoke up.. so they were executed without reason. Probably just some poor smuck doing their 50/60/70/80 roulette.

At the least there is happy ending. They were yeeted from the dungeon at the final boss. Friends are having some of the worst time they have ever had just attempting to progress through the story and level some alt jobs, it is sadness inducing.

[MagicalChase]

Was making character on Primal a mistake? Am beginning to feel that it was.

You bet it was I hate it here

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

Pfffff aye most unfortunately. My partner was messing around on our PS4 account when for the first time (and our luck tis fricken awful) we encountered the infamous "Do not tell me how to play" tank. Not only did they refuse to use cooldowns despite many many pleas from monk of all the people, they would not aoe.

The monk was being most cordial too! Something close to; "Using aoes will help you to maintain aggro on all enemies" nothing hostile at all. This was Keeper of the Lake so you expect encountering new players there. This tank had full blown baby rage meltdown and even shirked the healer to death. The healer was not even the one who spoke up.. so they were executed without reason. Probably just some poor smuck doing their 50/60/70/80 roulette.

At the least there is happy ending. They were yeeted from the dungeon at the final boss. Friends are having some of the worst time they have ever had just attempting to progress through the story and level some alt jobs, it is sadness inducing.

My friend had to deal with a toxic player when he started playing as a tank and was chased off, later on he came back to FFXIV and had a better expirience the second time. so far i have not met any toxic players but i've had to deal with some players playing in very weird ways

anyway enough about this as it sidetracks the thread

[forsakee]

have you seen the state of primal DF lately? it's been the worst it has ever been, even worse than pre-EW

what content gives duty finder issues? I'm on primal and everything in dutyfinder is braindead easy

[Cpt_Jack_Irons]

what content gives duty finder issues? I'm on primal and everything in dutyfinder is braindead easy

I think they are referring to how queueing as a DPS in DF has stupid long waiting times