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  1. #1
    Player
    Awkward's Avatar
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    Vaettir Schwarzer
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Vencio View Post
    I genuinely am thrilled & excited for SAM changes + less buttons/less cluttering = the more fun, more immersion, the better!

    I truly don’t understand why is it bothering most people that bad,

    It hardly is any nerfing really
    It's mostly from people who meta bandwagon honestly, there are plenty of other jobs in much worse shape than SAM ever was who never complained to this alarming degree.
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    ShanaShirayuki's Avatar
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    Akali Kurai
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awkward View Post
    It's mostly from people who meta bandwagon honestly, there are plenty of other jobs in much worse shape than SAM ever was who never complained to this alarming degree.
    How incredibly condescending. I've been maining this class since Stormblood and you say all of our opinions and experience with the class are invalid? Get over yourself.

    Also it seems you weren't here during the Hagakure debacle; there was similar backlash which prompted SE to re-add it back into the game. Then again based on your posts, ignorance on this matter seems to be your forte.
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    "SCREW IT GOING WHM AST CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES" -Noob Healer in Seal Rock 10/17/2015

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    Val_Bloodfallen's Avatar
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    Character
    Valentina Bloodfallen
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ShanaShirayuki View Post
    How incredibly condescending. I've been maining this class since Stormblood and you say all of our opinions and experience with the class are invalid? Get over yourself.

    Also it seems you weren't here during the Hagakure debacle; there was similar backlash which prompted SE to re-add it back into the game. Then again based on your posts, ignorance on this matter seems to be your forte.
    Facts! People that dont even play the class should just stfu since it has nothing to do with them and are obviously clueless in regards to how these changes negatively effect the synergy that sam has with other jobs, not to mention how less fun and hollow it feels.
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    Ranh's Avatar
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    Character
    Ranh Physaster
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Bloodfallen View Post
    Facts! People that dont even play the class should just stfu since it has nothing to do with them and are obviously clueless in regards to how these changes negatively effect the synergy that sam has with other jobs, not to mention how less fun and hollow it feels.
    Correct. The main criticism isn't even about damage but about the feel of the job after the changes.
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    CelestiCer's Avatar
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    Character
    Celesti Cer
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranh View Post
    Correct. The main criticism isn't even about damage but about the feel of the job after the changes.
    Pretty much this. There are just several argue points I keep seeing
    - Button/Action Bloat Excuse
    - DPS Performance didn't change
    - It's just one button
    - Gatekeeping
    6.1 SAM changes did not address anything.

    Action/Bloat got debunked and multiple better solutions got proposed already. DPS performance did get hit and the feel of hitting big hits got reduced. Part of our identity to hit hard btw. 6.1 wasn't just one Button removal, Kaiten meant a whole damn lot to our gameplay. Gatekeeping... what even does this mean? the game is to hard? are you doing Savage/Ultimates? You don't need to know proper rotations of anything to do casual content. You're gatekeeping yourself.

    No matter " What the reason " in someway shape or form, Samurai enjoyment got hit in 6.1. Yes Enjoyment. Numbers/Parsing/Rotation Execution/Aesthetics/Feel of AoE, it got negatively hit for fixing " Absolutely Nothing " and Addressing complaints no one made before the patch hit.
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    Last edited by CelestiCer; 04-20-2022 at 10:43 PM.

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    DreadfullyAwful's Avatar
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    Vin Shenchi
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awkward View Post
    It's mostly from people who meta bandwagon honestly, there are plenty of other jobs in much worse shape than SAM ever was who never complained to this alarming degree.
    Looking at your characters on lodestone, maybe you should unlock SAM via the job quest and actually level it to 90 before giving feedback on changes.
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  8. #8
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DreadfullyAwful View Post
    Looking at your characters on lodestone, maybe you should unlock SAM via the job quest and actually level it to 90 before giving feedback on changes.
    '' Hey guys I don't play SAM/ just dinged it/ boosted it and imma lecture you all about how these changes are good and why y'all are toxic elitists. ''
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    Asiago Kaseladen
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Awkward View Post
    It's mostly from people who meta bandwagon honestly, there are plenty of other jobs in much worse shape than SAM ever was who never complained to this alarming degree.
    Its almost like you have no idea what you're talking about
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