FC Wards split is legitimately awful

[Jojoya]

Here's the thing about personal and instanced housing. Most personal housing are very insular fantasies that players buy and then barely use. They like the idea of having the aesthetics of a personal house, but few take advantage of it in a social manner, i.e. inviting other people over frequently or interacting with their neighbors. And if you made it all instanced then that completely defeats the purpose of having neighborhoods. The ward system is quite antithetical to personal housing, so I don't know why players want to shoehorn personal or instanced housing into it when it functions much better as what it always intended to be: social hubs.

Not everyone is an extrovert and wants to be surrounded by other players constantly. They want a place to go to and relax as a break from the socialization while staying in game to do other things (maybe they're crafting, maybe they're playing games in the Toy Box, etc.).

They want it to be a place that reflects their preferences and style. Inn rooms don't work.

Apartments would have been a good solution except for one thing - they are small. They all to often end up feeling cramped by the time decorating is done do the awkward scaling of some of the furnishings and the need to cram all the furnishings that represent a home into that small space. That's not going to appeal to everyone.

It's pretty ironic to be complaining that personal housing is anti-social at the same time SE has stated their goal is to make the game more solo player friendly. Not every bit of a MMO's content needs to be social.

[Stormpeaks]

Not everyone is an extrovert and wants to be surrounded by other players constantly. They want a place to go to and relax as a break from the socialization while staying in game to do other things (maybe they're crafting, maybe they're playing games in the Toy Box, etc.).

They want it to be a place that reflects their preferences and style. Inn rooms don't work.

Apartments would have been a good solution except for one thing - they are small. They all to often end up feeling cramped by the time decorating is done do the awkward scaling of some of the furnishings and the need to cram all the furnishings that represent a home into that small space. That's not going to appeal to everyone.

It's pretty ironic to be complaining that personal housing is anti-social at the same time SE has stated their goal is to make the game more solo player friendly. Not every bit of a MMO's content needs to be social.

FC houses are nothing like personal housing, they are basically a glorified tenant system where fc members can hang out, they have no say in any of the decoration, be it inside or outside, I dont know why other people even use it as an argument to justify fc houses being more important than normal houses, plus as I mentioned earlier, most fc houses are abandoned and used for submarines, a lot of the time even empty.

[ElenaRedoran]

FC houses are nothing like personal housing, they are basically a glorified tenant system where fc members can hang out, they have no say in any of the decoration, be it inside or outside, I dont know why other people even use it as an argument to justify fc houses being more important than normal houses, plus as I mentioned earlier, most fc houses are abandoned and used for submarines, a lot of the time even empty.

this is going to sound slightly rude but wouldn't it be better to find a new fc? one that isn't run by one person that wants to decide absolutely everything

[Shibi]

FC houses are nothing like personal housing, they are basically a glorified tenant system where fc members can hang out, they have no say in any of the decoration, be it inside or outside...

I've been a guild/fc leader in many MMOs for many years. I've never had issues with people coming up and asking for decoration changes. I usually do have an officer or two who are entrusted with decorating - because they are good at it - but it's never been a problem for me to incorporate everyone's wants.

If you are finding your current FC is a little like a dictatorship, then maybe it's time to move on and find one where you are treated more like part of the family.

[leoxastaroth]

I've been a guild/fc leader in many MMOs for many years. I've never had issues with people coming up and asking for decoration changes. I usually do have an officer or two who are entrusted with decorating - because they are good at it - but it's never been a problem for me to incorporate everyone's wants.

If you are finding your current FC is a little like a dictatorship, then maybe it's time to move on and find one where you are treated more like part of the family.

I think pretending that FC members coming up to you and asking you to place down a certain furniture or move a certain thing is the same as getting to decorate a house on your own house interior, exterior and all is a little bit dishonest.

I get that some people maybe don't understand the appeal of wanting to 'decorate' or furnish a house but it is a legitmate part of the game that a lot of people want to do and partake in and apartments just don't provide that. Whether you enjoy the content or see it as important or not, it is to other people and no content in an MMO should really be locked away behind a leadership only position for GMs/FC leaders, plus not to mention all it does is discourage people from bothering to join FCs and instead encourages tons of shell/lone-man FCs to circumvent access to that content.