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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This is what people wanted, everyone was all up in arms, blaming bots for the terrible system, saying it was their fault, that 6.1 was going to save housing.

    Now this is what people get, they get the bot situation, but x100.

    Also this excuse of "FC houses hold more people so its fair there's a majority of them" is absolutely baseless, 80% of fc houses are empty, inside and out, used for submarines and abandoned left to rot outside of that purpose, its ridiculous that some people think this will encourage interactions between fcs when those fcs are dummy fcs to begin with, just made for housing for a single person as personal FC.
    Lets see as of per March 2022 the Light Data Center had
    10.286 FC Houses
    24.274 Personal Houses
    FCs in Total 39.629

    For Zodiark
    1678 FC Houses
    4082 Personal
    total of 6916 FCs.

    For those FCs which have a House on the Light Data Center a total of 1622 FCs are having less or equal to 3 Members.
    On Zodiark there are only 275 FCs with less then or 3 Members.

    Sry I call your "but i can see it with my own eyes" 80% nonsense. Its just a emotional inflated number which bares any logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Lets see as of per March 2022 the Light Data Center had
    10.286 FC Houses
    24.274 Personal Houses
    FCs in Total 39.629

    For Zodiark
    1678 FC Houses
    4082 Personal
    total of 6916 FCs.

    For those FCs which have a House on the Light Data Center a total of 1622 FCs are having less or equal to 3 Members.
    On Zodiark there are only 275 FCs with less then or 3 Members.

    Sry I call your "but i can see it with my own eyes" 80% nonsense. Its just a emotional inflated number which bares any logic.
    You are free to go take a look on your own then when the servers come up, take a look at the top tier plots for smalls, and at all mediums and larges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You are free to go take a look on your own then when the servers come up, take a look at the top tier plots for smalls, and at all mediums and larges.
    Give me the adresses you want me to look up and I do it. A bunch of a few outliers doesnt make your 80 % of all FCs are abonded more true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Lets see as of per March 2022 the Light Data Center had
    10.286 FC Houses
    24.274 Personal Houses
    FCs in Total 39.629

    For Zodiark
    1678 FC Houses
    4082 Personal
    total of 6916 FCs.

    For those FCs which have a House on the Light Data Center a total of 1622 FCs are having less or equal to 3 Members.
    On Zodiark there are only 275 FCs with less then or 3 Members.

    Sry I call your "but i can see it with my own eyes" 80% nonsense. Its just a emotional inflated number which bares any logic.
    Do you know of the 1622 small FC plots, what the quality if their plots are? If they have a majority of the large and medium plots, then the prior poster's point still stand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Do you know of the 1622 small FC plots, what the quality if their plots are? If they have a majority of the large and medium plots, then the prior poster's point still stand.
    Ehm no? Their previous post stated that 80% of all FCs were abondend. This includes Smalls as well. The Plotsize didnt matter in their former argument.

    Also this excuse of "FC houses hold more people so its fair there's a majority of them" is absolutely baseless, 80% of fc houses are empty, inside and out, used for submarines and abandoned left to rot outside of that purpose, its ridiculous that some people think this

    Provided the total of 1678 FC Houses. So if we subduct the 275 so claimed Shell FCs from the data we got from the Housing Census. Theres still no 80% empty rotted plots based on the claim of all FCs.

    will encourage interactions between fcs when those fcs are dummy fcs to begin with, just made for housing for a single person as personal FC.

    Provided the information that only 275 FCs had less then 3 or exactly 3 Members.
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    Last edited by Yodada; 04-12-2022 at 06:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Ehm no? Their previous post stated that 80% of all FCs were abondend. This includes Smalls as well. The Plotsize didnt matter in their former argument.

    Also this excuse of "FC houses hold more people so its fair there's a majority of them" is absolutely baseless, 80% of fc houses are empty, inside and out, used for submarines and abandoned left to rot outside of that purpose, its ridiculous that some people think this

    Provided the total of 1678 FC Houses. So if we subduct the 275 so claimed Shell FCs from the data we got from the Housing Census. Theres still no 80% empty rotted plots based on the claim of all FCs.

    will encourage interactions between fcs when those fcs are dummy fcs to begin with, just made for housing for a single person as personal FC.

    Provided the information that only 275 FCs had less then 3 or exactly 3 Members.
    I notice you're conveniently skipping the line where they said "Have you ever checked medium and large plots, and top tier small plots ? They are all 1 people fcs"
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    Last edited by Rolder50; 04-12-2022 at 06:55 AM. Reason: added bold for emphasis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I notice you're conveniently skipping the line where they said "Have you ever checked medium and large plots, and top tier small plots ? They are all 1 people fcs"
    Thank you. Some people just skip what they'd rather skip to prove their own point
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I notice you're conveniently skipping the line where they said "Have you ever checked medium and large plots, and top tier small plots ? They are all 1 people fcs"
    I read it but still doesnt make their FIRST argument "all FCs" more true. It only shows that their assumption of 80% of all FCs was and still is wrong and they should have better argued with 80% of all Mediums/Large are abondened. And even seeing all the venus on Zodiark recently I still doubt that 80% of all Mediums/Larges belongs to shell FCs. But im still waiting for at least something like a proof that these 80% are not only a emotionally inflated number to counter the recent announcement of 75% FC Wards.

    Sorry to say this. But an emotionally impacted argument on personal guesses wont help to provide feedback for Square even I have the same stance on their side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    I read it but still doesnt make their FIRST argument "all FCs" more true. It only shows that their assumption of 80% of all FCs was wrong and they should have better argued with 80% of all Mediums/Large are abondened. And even seeing all the venus on Zodiark recently I still doubt that 80% of all Mediums/Larges belongs to shell FCs. But im still waiting for at least something like a proof that these 80% are not only a emotionally inflated number to counter the recent announcement of 75% FC Wards.
    Mist P19/20/21 - P49/50/51 are a good example of the most abandoned smalls that are just used by dummy fcs with one player in them, feel free to take a look at them when you log in and report back here. and that I do know from my own eyes because I checked it several times a day for months until eventually one came up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Mist P19/20/21 - P49/50/51 are a good example of the most abandoned smalls that are just used by dummy fcs with one player in them, feel free to take a look at them when you log in and report back here. and that I do know from my own eyes because I checked it several times a day for months until eventually one came up.
    And even then 275 of 1678 FC Houses on Zodiark having less or exact 3 Members. This accounts for a total of 16,38% of all FC Houses or of 4,77% of all total available plots before Patch 6.1. If we assume that all of those 275 are just abondened shell FCs and not one Single Player FC which uses their FC-House on a regular basis i'm still not sure where your 80% came from.
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