White Mage's 6.1 changes fail to address a core issue I have with the job.

[Cheremia]

After the changes to Glare you are able to slidecast and weave while using glare so it's not as important to use Dia or Lilies for movement, you can just prepare in advance and slowly slide over while casting until you get there.
White Mage heals seem to be a majority GCD because that's the flavor of the job, it's heavily reliant on GCD but has higher potencies to compensate. Honestly, I wouldn't want them to be OGCD, it just feels nice the way it is.

Not to sound too rude, but man...

Sometimes it really shows that people dont look at potencies and just trust people that say that whm has "the big gcd heals", when in reality, what it has is the big MP-Waste gcd heals.
Please people, LOOK at other healer tooltips, jobguides are there to look at. Whm does nothing better than any other healer and everything costs them a kidney for the same potency as others.

Whm needs help, it may be a bit better than before with 20 second lillies that are worth using, but WHY do ast and whm have the same potencies and whm has everything in more expensive anyways.

Please don't trust anybody saying that whm is big healer, they are not.

[RinaShinomiya]

Not to sound too rude, but man...

Sometimes it really shows that people dont look at potencies and just trust people that say that whm has "the big gcd heals", when in reality, what it has is the big MP-Waste gcd heals.
Please people, LOOK at other healer tooltips, jobguides are there to look at. Whm does nothing better than any other healer and everything costs them a kidney for the same potency as others.

Whm needs help, it may be a bit better than before with 20 second lillies that are worth using, but WHY do ast and whm have the same potencies and whm has everything in more expensive anyways.

Please don't trust anybody saying that whm is big healer, they are not.

Yeah lets compare WHM's Afflatus Solace to Lustrate, 200 potency higher on WHM's end and you only get Excog once every 2 Solace casts. The same applies to SGE but in blue and their excog equivalent isn't even 800 potency.
Okay now Afflatus Rupture. Hooray Indom is the same potency... on a longer cooldown... and without Plenary to boost it by 200 potency... oh...

That's not to mention that GCD heals have the benefit of being buffed by every healing buff and not only those which explicitly state to boost all of them. If you're running WHM/SCH the healing power gets pushed in WHM's favor even further due to fey illumination only really benefiting WHM and SCH's Fairy. You're probably gonna have more luck comparing WHMs to ASTs but at that point it's not really a crime to be placed 2nd.

[Saraphin]

Yeah lets compare WHM's Afflatus Solace to Lustrate, 200 potency higher on WHM's end and you only get Excog once every 2 Solace casts. The same applies to SGE but in blue and their excog equivalent isn't even 800 potency.
Okay now Afflatus Rupture. Hooray Indom is the same potency... on a longer cooldown... and without Plenary to boost it by 200 potency... oh...

That's not to mention that GCD heals have the benefit of being buffed by every healing buff and not only those which explicitly state to boost all of them. If you're running WHM/SCH the healing power gets pushed in WHM's favor even further due to fey illumination only really benefiting WHM and SCH's Fairy. You're probably gonna have more luck comparing WHMs to ASTs but at that point it's not really a crime to be placed 2nd.

now this is where we point out "Pure" Vs "Shield" healer.

Pure are supposed to put the band aids on, Shield are supposed to...for lack of a better way of putting it: wrap in bubble wrap.

Yes, Sage and SCH DO suffer when it comes from coming back from a tank going down low, which is probably WHY they added heals to the tank skills. However, we're NOT comparing WHM to SCH/SGE here, we're comparing WHM to AST, the other PURE healer. which shows the disparity between the two Pure healers due to AST's Buffs, etc.

[ty_taurus]

now this is where we point out "Pure" Vs "Shield" healer.

Pure are supposed to put the band aids on, Shield are supposed to...for lack of a better way of putting it: wrap in bubble wrap.

Yes, Sage and SCH DO suffer when it comes from coming back from a tank going down low, which is probably WHY they added heals to the tank skills. However, we're NOT comparing WHM to SCH/SGE here, we're comparing WHM to AST, the other PURE healer. which shows the disparity between the two Pure healers due to AST's Buffs, etc.

The Pure and Barrier healer roles aren't worth actually caring about at the moment as there's no real value in bringing a Pure Healer because SCH and SGE may have slightly lower healing potencies, but make up for that in volume. Both have a wide library of OGCD healing on short cooldowns and thus output healing better than WHM. AST doesn't have an inherent advantage because they're a pure healer, they have an advantage because they're an AST, no one wants to play as AST, and they keep getting ludicrous healing CDs to make them more appealing. Even with its ridiculous numbers, SCH/SGE is the highest performing healer combo because their "anti-synergy" applies only to two of their least-used tools on their hotbars and can otherwise heal very comfortably. AST/SCH is slightly easier though and also has Macrocosmos.

So yes, we should definitely be comparing WHM to all healers and not just AST, but even in that regard, WHM isn't winning in healing output at the moment and probably won't be after the changes either. Sure there are healing potency buffs that their heals benefit from more, but both SCH and SGE provide healing action buffs that both of them benefit from and are able to outperform WHM out of shear volume, like I mentioned earlier.

[RinaShinomiya]

However, we're NOT comparing WHM to SCH/SGE here, we're comparing WHM to AST, the other PURE healer. which shows the disparity between the two Pure healers due to AST's Buffs, etc.

The comparison I replied to was about White Mage's Lilies being GCD vs Astrologian's and Scholar's OGCDs.

That's not to mention that GCD heals have the benefit of being buffed by every healing buff and not only those which explicitly state to boost all of them. If you're running WHM/SCH the healing power gets pushed in WHM's favor even further due to fey illumination only really benefiting WHM and SCH's Fairy. You're probably gonna have more luck comparing WHMs to ASTs but at that point it's not really a crime to be placed 2nd.

Like yeah if we compare ED to Tetra then ED is laughably op in comparison but Tetra isn't how WHM heals predominantly. Compared to Afflatus Solace it's only a 100 potency loss and WHM actually gets mileage out of Largesse Temperance while AST's Neutral Sect only buffs heals which AST is actively trying to avoid due to heavy DPS loss.
Casting Afflatus Rupture + Assize is effectively the same as casting Malefic + CI or ES as WHM doesn't lose damage from Afflatus Spells anymore. Well, not quite the same because Assize doesn't have a 30s cooldown but you get the point.

Who cares if Medica 2 costs more than Aspected Helios if both healers try to avoid these buttons.

[dapperfaffer]

Whm does nothing better than any other healer and everything costs them a kidney for the same potency as others.

Thats not true. WHM overheals better than any other healer without requiring a loss of uptime for DPS.