Final Fantasy 14 --here goes

[syntaxlies]

I will probably get flamed for this but please keep an open mind.

After the recent patch I like the fact that they brought out the job classes but I really think they just need to get rid of the armor system this gladiator discipline and pld Job class is simple a bad idea. it was meant to make it more party oriented or so that is what I read in a few forums but instead as a BLM I lose the ability to cure(yes second wind but it’s pointless for mages) because I am tied to monk *(I will address this later) why can’t that have 4 basic jobs rogue, warrior, mage, cleric that then branch off into different directions (yes like rift and other MMORPG but somehow different because with others you have to create a new guy) and even take it one step further like they did in or have like they did in dragon warrior 7 and I think ff7 tactics have "combination classes" so you can level a mage to 10 or 20 or 30 which ever works then it branches into a tree for example after mage comes Black mage (yes starts back at lvl 1 just like ffxi because we all love to) then you level cleric which turns into white mage then maybe take it further you need to have cleric at lvl 20 and black mage at 20 makes red mage (just a thought) or mixing warrior job to cleric job makes pLD and you can make it so that you have 3 advance jobs create a heroic job all giving new party dynamics and still allowed to change the job at will.

Keep in mind it’s all open minded and just my thoughts but the next part that I know I will be flamed for is everyone that has all lvl 50 jobs I think the best thing they could do is just wipe the servers start fresh at lvl 1 for everyone and everything. I know some people have issues with this but getting 2.0 out is a huge step and when they do everyone will be lvl 50 and no low level people left so when and if they get new people (going to be tough) you won’t be able to level friends because they have everything at 50.

Next materia great Idea but then they took it too far and now you can add up to 5 materia to one item, ok so you’re telling me that a person can put +24 int or more with attk magic pot +30 is going to be better than a weapon or gear designed to be end game (at this time) maybe dumb down the materia just a bit guys.

sooo... im guessing you dont actually play the game...

[Firon]

I really want to point something out, regarding that last statement of yours (the bolded line):

That's the whole point of a main class/job in the first place...Your MAIN class/job is supposed to be SUBSTANTIALLY better at IT'S* role than any another class/job is at that role. There shouldn't be a need to COMPLETELY restrict jobs if the main class/job counterpart is properly balanced.

The reason XI failed, in that regard, was because ppl could simply sub a particular job, and act as a replacement for a role that it wasn't intended to replace. For example:

Summoner/White Mage = replacement healer for whm

Ninja/Warrior = replacement tank for pld



A BLM capable of curing did not cause a problem for a WHM, in XI, thanks to the sub job system restrictions -we were only granted access to "actions" available to our sub job at it's current "restricted" level (half the level of your main class).

The answer to the problem in XIV shouldn't be "screw all other mages out of a cure, to keep white mage relevant." We should be asking for adjustments to the class/job system... Find ways, like the sub job system, to keep jobs like blm from ever having a way to compete with whm for main healer. The Armoury System is the problem here. It's too hard to balance with it's current design.

Anyway, my point is....the recent update to the Armoury System wasn't good enough. They need to implement some sort of Armoury/Sub-job System hybrid.

I hate to call you out but how can a smn/whm replace a whm but not a blm/whm could not and yet they have the same tools. lulz

[avalonstormm]

I wish I could wipe my DOM/DOW to lvl 1 and start over for 2.0, however the DOH/DOL would cause me and i'm sure others to commit suicide if we had those wiped. Honestly lvl'ing a class/job right now is so fast, I wish I could experience the content at each of the job quest rank fights lvl capped. It feels like they put so much nice work into the job quests yet its just a pushover and an anima pinch at rank 50.

You can now view all the CS of all the job quests contents including main scenario quests, dol, doh, dow/dom quest inside the inn...this was a great way for me to re-read and watch the CS for all the jobquests cs i missed because i spammed skipped all of them..

[Molly_Millions]

why can’t that have 4 basic jobs rogue, warrior, mage, cleric that then branch off into different directions

Just 4 classes? Not just no, but HELL NO! Final Fantasy games are known for their diverse range of playable classes, this game continues that tradition and rightfully so.

[avalonstormm]

@op

No thanks. I earned my 50s and have been playing this game as a dedicated member since September 21st 2010.

I don't respect anyone who considers petitioning for my hard earned achievements and lvls to be just simply erased. Those are hours and days of my life i can never get back simply because some newb was jealous that some of us actually gave this fail game a chance and persevered in the face of adversity.

We veterans earned our place to have all 50s.

Even asking to take that away is beyond ridiculous.

The sheer sufferance and invested time/exp/gil/achievements we poured into this game alone is numerically greater than the number of days you have been alive much less the tiny amount of consideration you put into your OP.

Not at all possible i would support any such thing. Theres no justification other than jealousy. No matter which way you spin your opinion, it is horribly flawed and inappropriate.

I am one of the few players that sticked it out with SE and FFXIV since Sept 2010 and I completely agree with your statement..we are the ones that took a huge gamble in this game and got very little reward from SE (gobboue mount)...if anything we should be posterized all over lodestone to show that few of us actually believed in SE and in FFXIV and be somehow recognized for it...I wouldn't mind seeing my character's name on lodestone (in a stone tablet format) after the 7th umbral era destroyed Eorzea and be noted as one of the HEROES THAT PERSEVERED THE HARDSHIPS IN EORZEA. That would definitely mean alot to me...

[AreeyaJaidee]

I am one of the few players that sticked it out with SE and FFXIV since Sept 2010 and I completely agree with your statement..we are the ones that took a huge gamble in this game and got very little reward from SE (gobboue mount)...if anything we should be posterized all over lodestone to show that few of us actually believed in SE and in FFXIV and be somehow recognized for it...I wouldn't mind seeing my character's name on lodestone (in a stone tablet format) after the 7th umbral era destroyed Eorzea and be noted as one of the HEROES THAT PERSEVERED THE HARDSHIPS IN EORZEA. That would definitely mean alot to me...

100% Agreed. We are Veterans. Onion Helms 4 Ever!

I like that lodestone idea :3

I also think we need our own achievement: Veteran of Eorzea
Or something to that effect.

[myoozek]

I am one of the few players that sticked it out with SE and FFXIV since Sept 2010 and I completely agree with your statement..we are the ones that took a huge gamble in this game and got very little reward from SE (gobboue mount)...if anything we should be posterized all over lodestone to show that few of us actually believed in SE and in FFXIV and be somehow recognized for it...I wouldn't mind seeing my character's name on lodestone (in a stone tablet format) after the 7th umbral era destroyed Eorzea and be noted as one of the HEROES THAT PERSEVERED THE HARDSHIPS IN EORZEA. That would definitely mean alot to me...

Agreed! What I think would be nice, is if SE sent us a personalized stone tablet or charm thing, similar to this. Maybe with a unique code that allows unlocking new, rare, or exclusive content in future patches. Like - a different color chocobos, or freaking laser beams on top of our goobbues.

[Khal_Drogo]

I hate to call you out but how can a smn/whm replace a whm but not a blm/whm could not and yet they have the same tools. lulz

I wasn't aware that BLMs had Carbuncle and Leviathan O_O

When did this happen...why wasn't I informed?! :P



Just realized what you were getting at lol...

In case you were seriously making that argument...here's a breakdown:

Summoner was able to main heal with /WHM **because** of Levi and Carb; with those 3 aids (sub job, and the 2 avatars), they became an effective main heal. BLM/WHM was ok for back-up, but it could never in act as main heal, nor could bard, paladin, or any other ridiculous combination.

The point is that there are exceptions to every rule. Just because ONE or TWO classes/jobs are able to exploit a system doesn't mean you abandon it entirely. Ninja and Summoner were a couple of the exceptions in XI. Aside from them, not many other jobs replaced unintended roles. This nonsense about a BLM not being able to cure at all is ridiculous.

[Tsleuer]

Just 4 classes? Not just no, but HELL NO! Final Fantasy games are known for their diverse range of playable classes, this game continues that tradition and rightfully so.

I was talking as like a tree or a base classes then branching out sorry if it sounded like i only wanted 4 classes and that's it. I have always love the ability to change jobs, and i still think its brilliant being able to change whenever.

[Tsleuer]

sooo... im guessing you dont actually play the game...

I have been playing since it came out and have seen it up and down lvled some jobs stopped sometime after December 2010 and came back in august 2011 after some of the other battle bugs were worked out.