Only 5 Wards for Personal Housing? Are you serious?

[Erisiel]

Every member of an FC, provided they're given the permission, can enter the lottery however. For example, got an FC with 50 members? You can have up to 50 "tickets" in the lottery, while individuals max out at... 1.

It already vastly favors FCs.

Indeed. And FC houses can house many more people than a personal house can. There are many small to medium FCs that cannot compete. They deserve a chance. Too many people own personal houses for FCs to get in. It seems like SE is trying to balance the distribution by heavily favoring FCs with ward lockouts because personals have the majority of plots, so it's fair this way. More people can have access to housing through FC rooms.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

Every member of an FC, provided they're given the permission, can enter the lottery however. For example, got an FC with 50 members? You can have up to 50 "tickets" in the lottery, while individuals max out at... 1.

It already vastly favors FCs.

And you need x50 more money too if you want to enter lotto with all 50 members.

[Risvertasashi]

Indeed. And FC houses can house many more people than a personal house can. There are many small to medium FCs that cannot compete. They deserve a chance. Too many people own personal houses for FCs to get in. It seems like SE is trying to balance the distribution by heavily favoring FCs with ward lockouts because personals have the majority of plots, so it's fair this way. More people can have access to housing through FC rooms.

So, you're obviously very in favor in FCs having priority, and, sure. It's going to make some people very happy.

The flipside of that is SE has been failing to address complaints about the supply of housing being too small since, well, since the system's inception pretty much. We're getting close to a decade on that. And for people in that camp, where the shortage is already painful, SE just cut the supply down to one quarter.

So, sure, it'll make some people happy, but it comes at the cost of hurting a whooole lot of over people. Personally, I don't think complaints about it will stop - SE has taken what's already a very bad experience for the many players that want to participate, and severely damaged it even more.

[LaylaTsarra]

Going to promote the creation of small FC's given housing is something people want. I know I personally have them on other servers to share with my alts and few select friends. You will lose the friendship and activity circles of a large FC however.

I still have my reservations about shill FC's and House Buying for Resale with what appears to be 4 months of the current ward distribution. The other issue is the fact that some wards will be FC only and whether or not they will open them to mixed housing at a later date.

[Sindele]

It's a good decision for the first wave - personals chewing up 70% of the housing supply has horrifying ramifications on highly populated servers - but the re-evaluation should be run at the 21 or 28 day marks. Doesn't take a genius to see what will happen if it isn't.

[Nepentha]

Going to promote the creation of small FC's given housing is something people want. I know I personally have them on other servers to share with my alts and few select friends. You will lose the friendship and activity circles of a large FC however.

I still have my reservations about shill FC's and House Buying for Resale with what appears to be 4 months of the current ward distribution. The other issue is the fact that some wards will be FC only and whether or not they will open them to mixed housing at a later date.

They have put in some provisions to slow reselling down a bit. (Slowing because until housing is no longer a finite resource, RMTers will continue to find a way to make money off of it.) You must be in an FC for 30 days to be able to purchase a lotto ticket for that FC. With the default being an FC must be at least 30 days old for any members to meet this criteria.

Also you cannot pass FC leader off to someone who has been in the FC less than 30 days. I'm just praying someone alerted the devs to the workaround of simply deleting the FC leader character, which then passes leadership on to whoever is left in the FC.

[Kenky]

While I *personally* don't care as much about it, I'm sure the mentioning of Thavnairian Onion I've been hearing over and over again must have been my imagination, as is the really high cost usually caused by supply/demand and time consumed to get something...But you're right, of course.

I'm aware. What I'm saying is you're both overselling how much people don't care about housing perks out there, and *maybe* overselling how many people with an FC house religiously do that.

Thav. Onions only matter if you intend to summon / level-up your Chocobo. Something that not many people do. Infact, the only time I've actually seen people use Chocobos is Fate-farming. And the people summoning their chocobos usually have them maxed already.

And yeah, you can decide to use that as justification that "cross-breeding is a must-have" of some sort. But I still stand by my stance of "adding a community greenhouse to the Apartments would fix the issue." in the sense that you own an apartment, thus you gain access to 4 (maybe upgradable to the full 8) plots in the greenhouse that only you can interact with. Even if people decide to use their Chocobos.

Lastly, if you're not going to use the systems tied with the housing. Then why get them in the first place? I'm of the camp of "If you use the land you own, then it's fine." If you don't use the land you own, then what point is there in holding onto it? Bragging rights?

(I say this, knowing a few people on Mateus specifically that own plenty of houses. One of which owning a personal large. Who don't use them at all, yet refuse to sell them or vacate the plot, because they wouldn't get their gil back.)

[IkaraGreydancer]

Thav. Onions only matter if you intend to summon / level-up your Chocobo. Something that not many people do. Infact, the only time I've actually seen people use Chocobos is Fate-farming. And the people summoning their chocobos usually have them maxed already.

And yeah, you can decide to use that as justification that "cross-breeding is a must-have" of some sort. But I still stand by my stance of "adding a community greenhouse to the Apartments would fix the issue." in the sense that you own an apartment, thus you gain access to 4 (maybe upgradable to the full 8) plots in the greenhouse that only you can interact with. Even if people decide to use their Chocobos.

Lastly, if you're not going to use the systems tied with the housing. Then why get them in the first place? I'm of the camp of "If you use the land you own, then it's fine." If you don't use the land you own, then what point is there in holding onto it? Bragging rights?

(I say this, knowing a few people on Mateus specifically that own plenty of houses. One of which owning a personal large. Who don't use them at all, yet refuse to sell them or vacate the plot, because they wouldn't get their gil back.)

Some people just like to have a home to decorate

[Nepentha]

Lastly, if you're not going to use the systems tied with the housing. Then why get them in the first place? I'm of the camp of "If you use the land you own, then it's fine." If you don't use the land you own, then what point is there in holding onto it? Bragging rights?

No thank you. Not interested in policing how other people use their homes.

[Kenky]

No thank you. Not interested in policing how other people use their homes.

Oddly enough, decorating a house is "using the land you own" so it's all daijobu. And I certainly am not a fan of policing people, but people seem adamant on stirring up a fuss over anything these days. Having a concrete stance to fall back to helps.. Not all the time, but most of the time.

Either that, or I (accidentally) join the voice of the masses, without intending to.