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    I think hairstyles must not be a priority for the devs right now. Those new Hrothgar hairstyles do not look like they should’ve taken until 6.1 to release. Did players ask for those styles or did they just add the same ones they gave male viera? I hope they patch in some ears for you soon. That’s just terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    I think hairstyles must not be a priority for the devs right now. Those new Hrothgar hairstyles do not look like they should’ve taken until 6.1 to release. Did players ask for those styles or did they just add the same ones they gave male viera? I hope they patch in some ears for you soon. That’s just terrible.
    These are the same hairstyles viera were given, so its kind of safe to assume that every hairstyle viera get, will be generally the same hairstyles hrothgar will get
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    These are the same hairstyles viera were given, so its kind of safe to assume that every hairstyle viera get, will be generally the same hairstyles hrothgar will get
    I'm wondering if there was a reason why those hairstyles were chosen. Were they just "the players might like this," or a case of "these are going to be the hardest hairstyles to get to work, so we better do these first"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm wondering if there was a reason why those hairstyles were chosen. Were they just "the players might like this," or a case of "these are going to be the hardest hairstyles to get to work, so we better do these first"?
    They're largely the same hairstyles that were given to Female Viera at 6.0 launch as Akimori mentioned. So I feel pretty confident that they didn't take whether or not they would actually look good on Hrothgars into consideration. Most likely, these hairstyles were already on the workshop floor after the Viera ports so they just slapped them on Hrothgars and called it a day. As we saw in the most recent patch notes, Viera are getting hairstyles that specifically look good with their models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm wondering if there was a reason why those hairstyles were chosen. Were they just "the players might like this," or a case of "these are going to be the hardest hairstyles to get to work, so we better do these first"?
    Whether they look good or not is not really up to debate since it's subjective at best... but I also can't think about that criteira either.

    Would be safer to just go for the most used ones from the aesthetician. But I wonder if they even have that statistic at hand. If we'd go for popularity, the "male miqo'te 101" hair (the PVP one with small beads on the side) would certainly be on top of the list.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm wondering if there was a reason why those hairstyles were chosen. Were they just "the players might like this," or a case of "these are going to be the hardest hairstyles to get to work, so we better do these first"?
    People say they're virtually the same hairstyles Viera had.

    I doubt that they did have any quality assurance past that. They just plopped it on, printed a render so bad not even Dentists could make, and called it for the day. We've already had a thread before (now buried) so Hrothgar players could relay what they actually want. And we also have had several images going around of modded models that show hairstyles that already exist in the game and would fit a leonine race much better. Whether that will impact anything remains to be seen.

    So far we've had bugger all for an answer, and people are expecting some form of answer tomorrow. Whatever it is, brace yourselves. Because if they just shoved these models as-is, they likely won't give a satisfying answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Whether they look good or not is not really up to debate since it's subjective at best... but I also can't think about that criteira either.

    Would be safer to just go for the most used ones from the aesthetician. But I wonder if they even have that statistic at hand. If we'd go for popularity, the "male miqo'te 101" hair (the PVP one with small beads on the side) would certainly be on top of the list.
    Now that's a skewed criteria if I've ever seen one... What if the majority of the active playerbase plays a female character? What if the selected hairstyles don't even fit the race to begin with (as is the case)?

    It seems so low-effort and awkward that I wouldn't even surprised if that's what they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Now that's a skewed criteria if I've ever seen one... What if the majority of the active playerbase plays a female character? What if the selected hairstyles don't even fit the race to begin with (as is the case)?

    It seems so low-effort and awkward that I wouldn't even surprised if that's what they did.
    That's not skewed, you just parse the data and distribute evenly. Let's say they have resources to implement 4 styles. They pick the most popular ones from males and females and bring 2 from one and 2 from another.

    "What if they don't fit the race" - That's sort of subjective as well, which is a bad parameter to bring on what should or should not be deserving. Same thing as people hating the casual glams because it "doesn't fit FF".

    Choosing at random, now that is objectively worse.
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