the normal content is too easy

[Skyborne]

I have seen the "just play other games" "argument" spring up all the time now... and it only got pushed hard more recently (yeah, the 'just unsub' has been around ever since Yoshi made that remark ages back but not quite at this level). But I've never actually seen anyone outright state that FFXIV is their only game. Just strange and frankly, dismissive and bizarre. Are we only supposed to play the game 30 minutes a month? Is the "correct" way to play something along the lines of bouncing around the Limsa plaza flirting with 2B maid miqote or the Gold Saucer or depressing deserted housing districts?

[Xirean]

I have seen the "just play other games" "argument" spring up all the time now... and it only got pushed hard more recently (yeah, the 'just unsub' has been around ever since Yoshi made that remark ages back but not quite at this level). But I've never actually seen anyone outright state that FFXIV is their only game. Just strange and frankly, dismissive and bizarre. Are we only supposed to play the game 30 minutes a month? Is the "correct" way to play something along the lines of bouncing around the Limsa plaza flirting with 2B maid miqote or the Gold Saucer or depressing deserted housing districts?

For some people yes. There's a lot more in the game than just fighting. I understand that there is a crowed of people who only want to have battle content. It's unfortunate that the game doesn't give you what you want, but I have to ask. Do you expect one game to give you that? The only reason I brought up gold saucer and other things is because it really seems like people think there is no point in doing anything unless it facilitates end game big number fluff. I'm really not trying to sound rude, but it seems like people take "try playing other games" as an attack.

[Theodric]

FFXIV isn't really built for 'parkour'. Even the jumping puzzles that do exist are notorious for awkward hitboxes when trying to land at a specific angle. To say nothing of the existence of actual games built around parkour such as Dying Light providing a far superior experience for those who want to indulge in such activities in the first place.

Furthermore, it was first proposed in ARR - almost a decade ago - by Yoshi-P for players to just go and play other games. A statement echoed by many of his devout fans. Yet this far into the game's lifespan? I daresay we're at a point where the game should have more meat on the bone when it comes to each new content patch.

The fact of the matter is that a lot of us manage our free time rather well. We do play other games, we have other hobbies and we go to work. I don't think I've ever encountered a game's community with such a large group of players with an apparent allergy to getting more bang for one's buck.

[aveyond-dreams]

For some people yes. There's a lot more in the game than just fighting. I understand that there is a crowed of people who only want to have battle content. It's unfortunate that the game doesn't give you what you want, but I have to ask. Do you expect one game to give you that? The only reason I brought up gold saucer and other things is because it really seems like people think there is no point in doing anything unless it facilitates end game big number fluff. I'm really not trying to sound rude, but it seems like people take "try playing other games" as an attack.

Yes. That is literally what brought me here in the first place, not crafting and housing.

[Lily_Skye]

For some people yes. There's a lot more in the game than just fighting. I understand that there is a crowed of people who only want to have battle content. It's unfortunate that the game doesn't give you what you want, but I have to ask. Do you expect one game to give you that? The only reason I brought up gold saucer and other things is because it really seems like people think there is no point in doing anything unless it facilitates end game big number fluff. I'm really not trying to sound rude, but it seems like people take "try playing other games" as an attack.

^this

i have been playing since 2.0 and i only did savage for less than a month back in stormblood, not my cup of tea.

[Skyborne]

Do you expect one game to give you that?

For some people, yes. :^)

I've savage raided since Gordias and did ults for a bit, and I do dabble in other parts of the game. Fishing, grinding FATEs (I think the bicolor gem shop was a step in the right direction even if the FATEs themselves are not the most engaging) Eureka, and yes, running around housing districts when I'm bored because I like seeing the creativity of players. Does not change the fact it's depressing and empty outside of Limsa, unless you are right at the release of a patch...

And that's beside the OP's post, which is the idea that the average battle content itself is not engaging enough to want to partake in.