the normal content is too easy

[KizuyaKatogami]

what do you think a demolition timer on a house, is? especially funny considering that yoship said before that they'd never ever introduce such a system in the first place

Remember when they said they got rid of Veteran rewards because they didn’t want players to feel forced to pay a sub….but then the demo timer exists and contradicts that entire sentiment. Even if people bring up the argument of “oh well…you just have to sub every 40 days.” And? That still doesn’t defend the whole thing of Yoshi p telling us to play another game.

[TheMightyMollusk]

The part that annoys me is that, objectively, the game does have a complexity curve. Compare Ifrit (Hard) to Ravana to Titania to Zodiark and you can see it. (Yes, I skipped Stormblood here. As much as I love Susano, he's a pretty simple fight.) More stuff is happening, more mechanics to watch out for, more to manage. But with job balance focused nearly entirely on end game, synced content gets the short end. Gear inflation and power creep has killed a lot of the fun.

[GaleMex]

I'm sorry, are there two threads made by the same person with the same title and same topic and talking points? Am I tripping?

[Ronduwil]

I'm sorry, are there two threads made by the same person with the same title and same topic and talking points? Am I tripping?

You're not tripping. The OP opened the first thread in the wrong forum, and when he was told it was the wrong forum, he recreated it here. Eventually a mod realized, and instead of merging the two topics, they moved the original thread to the appropriate forum, so now we have two of them.

[IdowhatIwant]

I'm not sure I agree with this. Plenty of companies succeed on games that are one-time purchases. SE's essentially selling a new game every 2 years and likely getting even more income than that with subs between, even with people coming in a month here and there. If a single person subs for only four months in an entire expansion cycle, that's two full Once-and-Done games in a two year period. Not quite an insubstantial or game killing amount of money.

It may not be a substantial amount or game killing amount of money. But if every player did quit for 3 months and quoted that statement, Yoshi P would have lost his job immediately and that statement would be redacted. You do not mess with corporate profits or anger share holders.

1. Please show me where I said that he told us to unsub. Let me be more clear because you got the wrong impression. If you're one of those people who played 24/7 the first week that the game came out so that you could be ready right when the raid dropped, then you've created the drought for yourself. Those of us who took our time had weeks worth of MSQ. I still haven't completed all the role quests, either.

2. I'm impressed that you know that Yoshida intended to speak out against grindy progression systems when he was replying to a player who specifically stated that he was having trouble finding the motivation to even play anymore because of the lack of content. He literally replied with this:


There was no mention of progression systems or treadmill grinds in this context. He was literally talking about content when he said this. His advice was simply to take it slower.

1. If Yoshi P told the players to unsub from the game, he would have been fired. No question about that, see my above statement.
2. Do you really consider that a good answer? When some one says how do I stay motivated to play your game when there is nothing to do, you answer, go do something else and shrug it off.

[rewd]

Normally, I'd be excited for something like this to happen because several classes would absolutely benefit from such a thing. Then, I remember I play healers and just get angry because we probably won't get crap.

We realized that DPSing is very hard and puts too much pressure on new players. We decided to move healer AoEs to level 70 to make leveling easier. Please look forward to it.

[Silver-Strider]

We realized that DPSing is very hard and puts too much pressure on new players. We decided to move healer AoEs to level 70 to make leveling easier. Please look forward to it.

I'd delete my character at that point. WHM sucks enough as is but to lose Holy until level 70? That would be the straw that breaks me.

[Xirean]

To the people talking about finishing content quickly and "having nothing else to do" is your perspective that the game is to be completed? I'm really confused how people think there isn't enough content in the game, even repeat stuff. I have nearly every bit of loot in the gold saucer and I still go back there just cause it's fun and that's what my friends and I like to do. Last night I spent 2 hours parkouring through a housing district. What exactly do you want the game to give you?

[aveyond-dreams]

To the people talking about finishing content quickly and "having nothing else to do" is your perspective that the game is to be completed? I'm really confused how people think there isn't enough content in the game, even repeat stuff. I have nearly every bit of loot in the gold saucer and I still go back there just cause it's fun and that's what my friends and I like to do. Last night I spent 2 hours parkouring through a housing district. What exactly do you want the game to give you?

Gold Saucer is not battle content. Gold Saucer is not what drew me to this game, nor does it hold much staying power over me. Parkour? I can do that in nearly any open world game. At least there's no restoration to push onto us this time around. Frontloading with nothing but fluff and crafting is what made the Shadowbringers content drought as unbearable as it was.

Give us battle content like relics and Bozja/Deep Dungeon earlier.

[TaleraRistain]

Gold Saucer is not battle content. Gold Saucer is not what drew me to this game, nor does it hold much staying power over me. Parkour? I can do that in nearly any open world game. At least there's no restoration to push onto us this time around. Frontloading with nothing but fluff and crafting is what made the Shadowbringers content drought as unbearable as it was.

Give us battle content like relics and Bozja/Deep Dungeon earlier.

It's perfectly fine if someone doesn't partake of Gold Saucer but it *is* content in this game and there are plenty of players who do it and enjoy it. Crafting and gathering isn't battle content but it is content as well.

In 6.1 we're getting adventurer plates and I know people who already are talking about how much time they're going to spend getting theirs perfect. This isn't just a game focused on battle content. They put out a wide variety of things and we pick and choose what we like. But we're always going to come to a point where we run out of our first choice and either do a different type of content or amuse ourselves elsewise in the game or just take off that night and do something else.