Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[SturmChurro]

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I don't really see the issue. Not for me (I think it looks dumb), but they obviously know their target audience. Unlike a publisher like Amazon who is seemingly constantly trying to enforce that "they know best" and in turn killing their games.

First thing I notice when I login to GW2 again is how poor I am lol.
Doesn't matter what MMO I play, forever poor.

I always wanted to like GW2. I really like how my tree girls look, but that game never really pulled me in. Not like games like SWTOR, FFXIV, or even Lost Ark have. I like ESO more too, but 'Elder Scrolls' in general is most likely the reason I always came back to ESO.

[Kolsykol]

I don't really see the issue. Not for me (I think it looks dumb), but they obviously know their target audience. Unlike a publisher like Amazon who is seemingly constantly trying to enforce that "they know best" and in turn killing their games.

Tbh even in Lost Ark, I'd say that I kinda view the issue there a bit similarly because of the pricing ( and also stats on skins ).
It's not precisely gacha but they do it still in a fairly predatory way because of the skins being timed.
They prey on the fear of losing out, they release skins for a specific time and then remove them forever from the store, to make people rush to the store and buy it before it's gone.

I think it's kinda the same in PSO2 with the gacha, sliders shouldn't be tied to that and in Lost Ark skins shouldn't have a time limit.

[SturmChurro]

Tbh even in Lost Ark, I'd say that I kinda view the issue there a bit similarly because of the pricing ( and also stats on skins ).
It's not precisely gacha but they do it still in a fairly predatory way because of the skins being timed.
They prey on the fear of losing out, they release skins for a specific time and then remove them forever from the store, to make people rush to the store and buy it before it's gone.

I think it's kinda the same in PSO2 with the gacha, sliders shouldn't be tied to that and in Lost Ark skins shouldn't have a time limit.

So far, timed skins aren't actually that bad in the west, with Amazon as the publisher. The problem is they aren't releasing anything, and they decided to have Omen as the only skin for 35 days! When there are tons and tons and tons of other skins available, which doesn't dispel fears that they will censor the most popular skins from Korea.

Games like ESO do timed skins and I think it's a lot more predatory than how Lost Ark is doing it. Even in Korea you can buy skins with Gold. So, even a determined free to play should be able to get most skins they want (at the cost of progression). ESO even has timed loot boxes (At least last I played). It's horrific. I think PSO2 does timed loot boxes too. The funny thing is, a lot of players actually like timed or limited skins or items, so they can be one of the "few" who has it.

I do wonder.. if Amazon will change up the legendary skin acquisition from how it is in Korea, for Lost Ark. I think that's the one thing that's aquired through actual loot boxes. With all the 'pay to win' bad press, they might have to make some changes.

It's like I've always said, I think mogstation has one of the best monetization methods for an mmorpg currently. I just wish they would update it more often with quality stuff like outfits. I want outfits.

[Padudu]

I don't really see the issue. Not for me (I think it looks dumb), but they obviously know their target audience. Unlike a publisher like Amazon who is seemingly constantly trying to enforce that "they know best" and in turn killing their games.

PSO2 has been long dead lol, but the problem for me is the gacha. The massive amount of money you have to buy to even get the slider is.. well, a lot to put it simply. The only audience left (the people who decided to stay) are pretty much the whales, so yeah, I guess they know their audience. But they forgot to add in actual content *cries*

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that will happen no matter what tbf, we have "learned" as a society that breasts = sexual content. I mean hey there was a reason why for a while there was the huge breastfeeding in public debate.. which is the most stupid thing ever. We just turned out to be prudish in our society :P

I agree though lol, I don't think it's really out of her character, tbh there's a lot, a LOT worse you can do there in terms of sexualization. And like you said, guys nearly don't get that much flack, and likely never will tbh. We just don't view it as more sexual tbh, I guess the most would be the pose. It's just how we're wired honestly.

Ok, the hands and feet make sense, but that guy is still built!! I mean those thighs alone could KILL, man.