The Dead Ends is brutal for tanks, I end up quitting any random queues for this duty

[Liam_Harper]

Are you the same guy who after posting this is going into other threads claiming I don't use such and such because you posted this message lol

If you're straight up blaming others for your own faults, expect to be called out for it.

You aren't using "such and such". You're missing half your toolkit. It's just fact. That in itself is fine, if I see a new player making mistakes but with the right attitude that's no problem. But your attitude is terrible.

You attacked healers for not healing you. It turned out to be your gameplay. Just learn from it, maybe post a thread and ask for tips on being a better tank. Practice your mitigation. Read a guide or two on your rotation. People will respect you more and be happy to help. It'll mean you end up contributing more to your team and your runs will feel smoother overall. Win-win really.

[LeonKeyh]

Agreed and most people need to remember as well most players in this game are playing via controller. So its not easy to hover over the debuff or for the tank simply to quickly tag and provoke a far away enemy

That...isn't even remotely true...

As a healer, I never ever had an issue using Esuna. Its quick and fast. Now if your DPSing the entire time and low on MP thats a problem. However the WM also has the ability for MP quick regain which works great even though there is a cool down. I found it easier to Heal using a controller then to tank with a controller. In fact Esuna is so simple to use thats why I have been confused why people do not like using Esuna more.

It's because 99% of the time, you're better off using that GCD doing something differently; namely DPSing so that the fight ends quicker. Most debuffs don't matter or can basically be negated with an OGCD heal, so why take the time to use a GCD to cleanse it?

[Hyuinn]

Agreed and most people need to remember as well most players in this game are playing via controller. So its not easy to hover over the debuff or for the tank simply to quickly tag and provoke a far away enemy

As a healer, I never ever had an issue using Esuna. Its quick and fast. Now if your DPSing the entire time and low on MP thats a problem. However the WM also has the ability for MP quick regain which works great even though there is a cool down. I found it easier to Heal using a controller then to tank with a controller. In fact Esuna is so simple to use thats why I have been confused why people do not like using Esuna more.

I know a lot of people who play on controller, and targeting is only an issue when they're starting the game, not in the endgame. If you're having a hard time targetting stuff far away from you, use the enmity list (if the icon isn't red, then that's the one you need to provoke). You don't need to hover over the debuff either, just the person, because Esuna doesn't dispel what you want to dispel half the time (it dispels a random debuff). Healers are supposed to DPS, it is more MP efficient and since esuna is single target it really depends on which kind of debuff people have and how many do they have. If 1 or 2 people get hit by bad breath you would not going to dispel each and every debuff off of them, would you?

[HyoMinPark]

Agreed and most people need to remember as well most players in this game are playing via controller. So its not easy to hover over the debuff or for the tank simply to quickly tag and provoke a far away enemy

Controllers aren’t an issue when it comes to switching targets, though. Be it between party members needing a cleanse or heal or raise, or between enemies when it comes to Provoke. The only learning curve a controller user would have is when they start playing. I’ve played this game on controller since I started, and a lot of the “controller excuses” people come up with just aren’t applicable in the way they’re trying to make them applicable. Or even true.

You can’t mouse over to read debuff descriptions, but outside of a few fringe cases, that isn’t entirely necessary.

As a healer, I never ever had an issue using Esuna. Its quick and fast. Now if your DPSing the entire time and low on MP thats a problem. However the WM also has the ability for MP quick regain which works great even though there is a cool down. I found it easier to Heal using a controller then to tank with a controller. In fact Esuna is so simple to use thats why I have been confused why people do not like using Esuna more.

Esuna issues come from a combination of most debuffs being inconsequential in terms of whether or not they’re cleansed—with the exception of something like Doom, most can be powered through with HoTs or a shield. Another issue is the fact that many debuffs at the higher levels are not cleansable, and players end up not knowing the difference between what can’t be cleansed and what can be. As I stated previously, the little bar they added is not that noticeable on the HUD, and much could be done to improve the visibility of it. Likewise, the game also does not understand the meaning, and I’ve met several healers that had no idea it indicated anything. The only reason I know what it means is because I read the patch notes and it was talked about in there.

[DanielNegreanu_Adamantoise]

Despite the harsh critiques, don’t get discouraged.
Holy Shelton is really really good now and you need to be using it each pull.
On bosses too make sure you don’t stay topped off on oath. Use it whenever it’s full.
If you do that and make sure you get in 4 holy spirits during your requiscat, you should find yourself staying high on health during boss fights.
During bosses save your ramparts and sentinels to double up protection against tank busters with Shelton. Sheltron+Rampart, Sheltron+Sentinel respectively, and tank buster will only tickle.
Help out against raid wide nukes with divine veil and reprisal.
When you get the hang of this you can practically carry any group, don’t worry

[Imora]

Not excusing anything, but the game could do a better job at teaching about dispels. I know they added the blue line above cleansable debuffs in ShB (I believe), but the game never explains what the line means. It’s also not as noticeable as it could be. I’ve seen third-party plugins that actually highlight player names and/or place an icon above their character model that indicates they need a cleanse. I know SE doesn’t like the evil add-ons, but something like that might be beneficial in the future. Maybe something for them to think about.

Regarding Doom, there are two kinds in FFXIV: heal to full Dooms and Esuna Dooms. The game does a poor job of really teaching which is which. Even with the new cleansable line, I’ve caught healers in Dun Scaith attempting to heal to cleanse Deathgaze Hollow’s Doom versus using Esuna—and seen them try to Esuna the Doom in Wanderer’s Palace HM versus healing to full. Maybe different icons would help with this. However, the Wanderer’s Palace boss gives you a clue that the debuff is a heal to full mechanic, but people don’t always pay attention to dialogue boxes.

Dead Ends is also a new kind of Doom debuff that differs from the standard Doom.

Dead ends has both kinds of doom. Ra-la has the heal to full doom.

[HisShadowX]

If you're straight up blaming others for your own faults, expect to be called out for it.

You aren't using "such and such". You're missing half your toolkit. It's just fact. That in itself is fine, if I see a new player making mistakes but with the right attitude that's no problem. But your attitude is terrible.

You attacked healers for not healing you. It turned out to be your gameplay. Just learn from it, maybe post a thread and ask for tips on being a better tank. Practice your mitigation. Read a guide or two on your rotation. People will respect you more and be happy to help. It'll mean you end up contributing more to your team and your runs will feel smoother overall. Win-win really.

So wait, when you post something and asking me or accusing me of something you are going to go into every other thread as if I answered when I did not and claim because you asked the question it means I answered when I didn't?

I never responded to you, you do not know what I have been using. The only reason why I am responding now because find it a little insane.

So using your logic, I am going to ask you if you are a toad and because I asked I will now insist you somehow responded to something you never responded to.

[ASkellington]

Dead Ends is fine, there's no need for tuning it down.

I have 0 problems running it as tank or healer.

Just remember Reprisal and Arm's Length are also mitigation tools on top of the other 3 or so you have.

[HyoMinPark]

Dead ends has both kinds of doom. Ra-la has the heal to full doom.

Yes. But the first boss one is a completely new debuff. I believe it’s called “Necrosis”, but it’s a cleanse Doom. That’s the one I was referring to. Not Ra-la’s.

[Imora]

Yes. But the first boss one is a completely new debuff. I believe it’s called “Necrosis”, but it’s a cleanse Doom. That’s the one I was referring to. Not Ra-la’s.

Ah I see. Necrosis sounds more like a healing taken down debuff Ala wows mortal strike, to be fair.

Could see where folks would get confused, but it shows as dispellable so I don't understand why people don't just esuna it off.

The only things I don't esuna are low stacks of stacking poison.

And I'm on controller. I wouldn't say most do, but I'm betting the number of controller users is higher than people think solely because of consoles.