What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[linayar]

"Well, the killer says their victim lives on through their children! They really believe that! So that makes it better!"

Yep, the victims of the killer lived through their children, whom they conceived after being killed... uh...

Nah. As far as common "apologism" techniques, along with things like the abstraction and usage of symbols like the montage, coding the action of violence behind finicky language is also typical. It's not killing, it's cleaning--I mean, uh, "retiring"--I mean, uh, "Sundering".

Great, than let's call it what it is instead of "coding" behind the language. Killing is ending one's physical existence. They're not dead? They're still alive and able to reproduce? Then they weren't killed.

People can, and often do, paint things they saw in fragments of dreams they don't understand. Fragments of memories persist through soul aether, as Amon demonstrated. This does not change that their memory was intentionally wiped by Venat and that her strategy to "remove temptation" was to annihilate the Ancient civilization and all memory of it from history.

Yes, they can, but Hydaelyn not wanting the sundered to keep the knowledge of the pre-sundered world is not saying the sundering caused a loss of memory. You're taking a general statement and attributig a specific cause and mechanism.

What do you mean the sundering was primarily to stop Zodiark? She needed Zodiark for her plan. It seems they rewrote it to be instead of Zodiark to be because she thought only the sundered could manipulate dynamis.

To stop Zodiark from being used for more sacrifices to return the society to as it was.

Also,so mankind can learn to live through suffering? The ancients did that. They didn’t give in to the final days, they handed together and put a stop to it and restored the planet. Compare that to 90% of the sundered who give in and succumb to the final days and turn into blasphemies. Getting rid of peoples memories of an entire race, ripping them apart, and keeping it all a secret is the equivalent of genocide. This shouldn’t even really be up for debate. If it is, then i guess the rejoinings aren’t genocide either, since the sundered are all just fractured versions of complete people, rejoining them would just make them whole and themselves again.

They didn't give in because they had creation magic. Everything can be solved with creation magic. Tragedies can be undone. That's not living through suffering.

Also, even you comparing it to the sundered shows that the Ancients merely escape the worst of the suffering because they were not affected by dynamis, only their creation magic.

[Brinne]

Great, than let's call it what it is instead of "coding" behind the language. Killing is ending one's physical existence. They're not dead? They're still alive and able to reproduce? Then they weren't killed.

Hey, good to know if somebody deliberately hits me with a car to render my body and mind nonfunctioning, naturally simultaneously destroying my memories, and giving me a final life expectancy of about six months out, that so long as my heart beats and my womb works, they didn't kill me! Pack it in, folks.