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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Easy for me is not easy for someone else. Difficult for you is not difficult for someone else. The normal content is balanced around the average skill of the majority of the playerbase and whether or not that's undertuned will depend on individual perspectives and frankly that's all there is to it. We have people who used to call Extremes difficult and now say they're easy based on any number of variables while that easy content stomps others who may not be as skilled.

    You don't have to agree with it and you're very welcome to rail against it but that's the path the devs have chosen for the content that the majority of players will interact with. Personally I'd like to see lower iLvl caps on older content so they regain/retain some of their teeth but that's just my singular want in a sea of others, and I'm okay with that in the end. If I wasn't I'd probably find another game to meet that personal demand (no this isn't a "leave then" statement).

    Also amazingly spicy topic to post from a sockpuppet alt.
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    Jay Roc
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    Easy for me is not easy for someone else. Difficult for you is not difficult for someone else. The normal content is balanced around the average skill of the majority of the playerbase and whether or not that's undertuned will depend on individual perspectives and frankly that's all there is to it. We have people who used to call Extremes difficult and now say they're easy based on any number of variables while that easy content stomps others who may not be as skilled.

    You don't have to agree with it and you're very welcome to rail against it but that's the path the devs have chosen for the content that the majority of players will interact with. Personally I'd like to see lower iLvl caps on older content so they regain/retain some of their teeth but that's just my singular want in a sea of others, and I'm okay with that in the end. If I wasn't I'd probably find another game to meet that personal demand (no this isn't a "leave then" statement).

    Also amazingly spicy topic to post from a sockpuppet alt.
    I call bs. The game is balanced to the skill level of someone who doesn't know how to play. You can literally clear anything with very little effort or practice.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick124 View Post
    I call bs. The game is balanced to the skill level of someone who doesn't know how to play. You can literally clear anything with very little effort or practice.
    You can't just say others experiences aren't. Other people have different skill levels than you in many things. I'm gonna bet that you are absolutely horrible at a bunch of things others find laughably easy, just like everyone in the world is.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick124 View Post
    I call bs. The game is balanced to the skill level of someone who doesn't know how to play. You can literally clear anything with very little effort or practice.
    Then why do we see so many wipes in current expansion trial content if it's easy enough even for those that have no idea how to play?

    Think I need to call bs back at you. I'm not claiming the content is hard but it's also not nearly as easy as you want to think for those without experience and skill. If players without skill and experience are getting through the content, it's because they're being carried by those who do have it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    If Elden Ring has proven anything is that you don’t need snooze fest difficulty levels to be a successful and popular game. People enjoy and will rise up to challenge.

    For the people that dodge or cheese to get easier dungeons what is needed is more aggressive consequences to their actions not the dumbing down of content for everyone.
    You're not talking about a MMORPG. You're talking about a single player ARPG with a multiplayer (not massively multiplayer) mode. There's a big difference between the genres. Some people enjoy it. Some don't.

    If you're looking for Elden Ring level of difficulty, that is the game you want to be playing.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    Well ff14 is affectively a dress up game that got some rpg element to it. By the point I get to where I can do the harder content I lose interest from the brain dead things. But it what "people want". Not lot of people do the harder things . But not because they don't want but because the it's go from 1 to 10 no in between.
    So then play the other games that keep you interested.

    SE has their vision of what they want for this game. If their vision is not what you're looking for, then why stick around?

    It's not up to game developers to change their games for the sake of individual players. It's up to individual players to seek out the game developers who are making the games they want.

    Certainly they listen to player feedback but when they have an essentially satisfied player base they're usually not going to risk upending their game design and alienating those who were happy. The only reason 1.0 got scrapped and remade into ARR was because almost no one was satisfied with the newly released game.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 04-04-2022 at 01:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick124 View Post
    I call bs. The game is balanced to the skill level of someone who doesn't know how to play. You can literally clear anything with very little effort or practice.
    Are you sure about that, because until now I still see sprouts running away with stack marker
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