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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I'm just grateful that the mindset present in threads like this, on the forums, don't really reflect what is experienced in-game.

    I strongly dislike this idea that because 'you' find the game "too easy" everyone should. Makes me wonder if some view Zenos (and his 'nothing is challenging enough for me' mindset) as a role-model or something.
    I strongly dislike the idea that because ‘you’ find the game “too hard” everyone should. They have trusts in the game for a reason now. There’s no excuse to continue trying to make the game braindead and simple just because people are too lazy to read their tooltips and take the time to learn their jobs. We shouldn’t be promoting laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    I strongly dislike the idea that because ‘you’ find the game “too hard” everyone should. They have trusts in the game for a reason now. There’s no excuse to continue trying to make the game braindead and simple just because people are too lazy to read their tooltips and take the time to learn their jobs. We shouldn’t be promoting laziness.
    Yeah. But I'm not the one starting threads preaching about how the game should be adapted to suit me.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Yeah. But I'm not the one starting threads preaching about how the game should be adapted to suit me.
    Yes, because the devs have specifically told players to give criticism and feedback on the forums. That is what this player is doing. Also it isn’t to suit one person, it’s to suit a group of people. Just looking at all the threads here lately on this, many are in opposition of the constant simplifying the devs have been doing to both content and jobs.
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    I wouldn't have a problem with '' normal '' content being harder if the trial and dungeon system wasn't thoroughly kept alive by duty roulette users who want their quick rewards and leave/cry whenever the team wipes.

    '' I want harder normal content, but I don't want to stick around in a duty for more than 15 minutes and people should learn to play better because otherwise they don't respect my time '' is just a messed up ideology to have. Not that anyone here is saying this (yet), but I know nobody here wants to queue up for a duty roulette and spend an hour with sprouts trying to teach them the content while wiping continuously.
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    We're still in the Localization forum.

    UPDATE: Oh hey, thread got mod-moved to General.
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    Last edited by Rongway; 04-05-2022 at 06:53 AM.
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    If a new game came out and the reviews stated "Easiest game ever, requires no effort, you can clear this without knowing what you're doing at all!", that would probably be a rather low review and most people would avoid that game since it sounds boring.

    Yet in MMOs people defend that to the death. I get the feeling the players who love extremely easy content are the type of players who run through things with cheat codes. That's what FF14 is, a single player rpg with cheat codes enabled most of the way.
    We're also stuck in this strange cycle where easy gameplay has resulted in the game becoming dull roulette chores every day, but now we fear difficulty because it might make those chores take more time and we hate them. We've ended up so far from just running dungeons for the challenge and fun of running dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Yeah. But I'm not the one starting threads preaching about how the game should be adapted to suit me.
    Because the game has already adapted to suit you. The past two expansions have all but tripped over themselves trying to simplify every aspect of the game to make it as casual friendly as possible—to the point of being child level. Naturally, you aren't going to have a reason for posting feedback and criticism if you prefer this shift in philosophy. Meanwhile, other players will.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    I'm just grateful that the mindset present in threads like this, on the forums, don't really reflect what is experienced in-game.

    I strongly dislike this idea that because 'you' find the game "too easy" everyone should. Makes me wonder if some view Zenos (and his 'nothing is challenging enough for me' mindset) as a role-model or something.
    You are the minority, sorry, not sorry. Most people find the MSQ way too simple and its a common complaint everywhere when this game is brought up.
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    I'm glad people agree with me and are getting fed up. Naturally in a video game, things should get more difficult as the level and story progresses. Howover, like we've all seen here, the game gets easier and easier as you level up. Not an ounce of challenge. Nothing gets the adrenaline pumping. I just hope Square sees this and decides to acknowledge that they've gone a step too far and made a game so easy that it's literally impossible to die or lose on most content. Square will have to decide if they want to keep pandering to those who want to face no difficulty, have no challenge, and are just being content with everything being handed to them, or if they want to appeal to most of us who, when we log into a game, wish to be stimulated, wish to grow, wish to get better, wish to be challenged. If they keep chasing the "casual player money" by making everything braindead easy, they will surely lose money from those of us who will quit out of sheer boredom and like of drive to play. And something tells me, especially seeing these replies, there are more people who share my opinion and sentiments than those who are content with a godmode game that hands everything to them.

    Regarding the thread being in the wrong slot, i apologize, I put it in the feedback forum. If it belongs elsewhere, someone who has power can move it where it belongs or can tell me how to. I'm not sure what to do to move it.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick124 View Post
    I'm glad people agree with me and are getting fed up. Naturally in a video game, things should get more difficult as the level and story progresses. Howover, like we've all seen here, the game gets easier and easier as you level up. Not an ounce of challenge. Nothing gets the adrenaline pumping. I just hope Square sees this and decides to acknowledge that they've gone a step too far and made a game so easy that it's literally impossible to die or lose on most content. Square will have to decide if they want to keep pandering to those who want to face no difficulty, have no challenge, and are just being content with everything being handed to them, or if they want to appeal to most of us who, when we log into a game, wish to be stimulated, wish to grow, wish to get better, wish to be challenged. If they keep chasing the "casual player money" by making everything braindead easy, they will surely lose money from those of us who will quit out of sheer boredom and like of drive to play. And something tells me, especially seeing these replies, there are more people who share my opinion and sentiments than those who are content with a godmode game that hands everything to them.

    Regarding the thread being in the wrong slot, i apologize, I put it in the feedback forum. If it belongs elsewhere, someone who has power can move it where it belongs or can tell me how to. I'm not sure what to do to move it.
    I’d recommend putting it in the general forums tbh. It’ll get much more attention there than it would on these areas sadly.
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