VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Soge01]

Dev team needs to pick hairstyles that work around the head shape and ears of the Hrothgar. Shouldn't be too hard to do since there are a few hairstyles that are perfect for that.

The people here posting their own Hrothgar hairstyles look amazing and should he considered added into the game. I would wear most of them with my Hrothgar!

[SherlottaEryut]

Hello everyone. I have renewed my subscription and come to see everyone's opinion on the new Hrothgar hairstyles and voice my own, needless to say I'm devistated. No surprise, this has caused an uproar amongst the community.

Just like everyone, I thought this was an April fool's joke. After the photos were shown, I waited for a "JUST KIDDING - here are the real photos" and when that never came, I was shocked.

To the certain group of people who preached "We dont need more race-exclusive hairstyles, I just want what everyone else has" Well... Here you go - this is what Square Enix can provide. Viera were lucky, we kept our ears. Hrothgar not so much. They waited 3+ years for this?

I thought above all Hrothgar would be the ones to get more race-exclusive hairstyles. I knew the majority of modern-aesthetics wouldn't suit Hrothgar at all, but I did not expect their ears to get removed in the process. The hairstyles they selected were very dissapointing, it really doesn't fit the "Hrothgar" aesthetic.

People can continue to scream unfairness at the thought of Viera/Hrothgar getting unqiue hairstyles, but unless SE remove headgear from the game entirely, or spend years fixing all hats/hairstyles PROPERLY to our heads (Which would take years), then I don't see a more fair compromise than giving us something to make up for the restrictions. "Fairness" is a two way-street, not when it's a convenience to you.

Remember guys; popular demand is what keeps winning. We were promised more race-exclusive hairstyles, this is what we need. If everyone's content with Karen hairstyles that only a few will actually wear, good on you - but I want Yoshi-P to keep his word. The limited races deserve better. (Unless Yoshi-P says the 2019 statement was a mistranslation, I'll continue to think otherwise)

[Starshower]

I was one that wanted the hairstyles the other races have, but with ears of course. Once female hrothgars are released they will be able to use them as well, so the haren hairstyle and other feminine ones had to come because they would want to use them. I just expected the more masculine ones to come first. Hopefully by the time the next expansion will be released, viera and hrothgar will have access to all hairstyles in the game. And hopefully hrothgars get ears as well...

[Yencat]

To be honest I don't really agree with this narrative spin that it's somehow the players own fault these are bad because "we asked for this". Players ask for many things every day and we've seen them reject or sometimes just not respond to plenty of them so it's not like they're completely at the mercy of the wants of the playerbase if they have something different in mind, people asked for these mythical race-exclusive hairstyles for a long time as well.

If they really had concrete plans for either of the races in terms of hairstyles they would've gone through with them or even talked about it again beyond that original possibly mistranslated/misunderstood statement. To me personally, the fact that it took until 6.0 for Viera to get something and 6.1 for Hrothgar makes me think they didn't have any solid plans for their hairstyles at all, shared or new.

This isn't on the players who maybe did or didn't ask for something.

[Akimori]

To be honest I don't really agree with this narrative spin that it's somehow the players own fault these are bad because "we asked for this". Players ask for many things every day and we've seen them reject or sometimes just not respond to plenty of them so it's not like they're completely at the mercy of the wants of the playerbase if they have something different in mind, people asked for these mythical race-exclusive hairstyles for a long time as well.

If they really had concrete plans for either of the races in terms of hairstyles they would've gone through with them or even talked about it again beyond that original possibly mistranslated/misunderstood statement. To me personally, the fact that it took until 6.0 for Viera to get something and 6.1 for Hrothgar makes me think they didn't have any solid plans for their hairstyles at all, shared or new.

This isn't on the players who maybe did or didn't ask for something.

Honestly, seeing playing blame other players being like "This is what you wanted" is such a stupid mindset that runs rampant in all MMO communities is just...out of this world. Yoshi and his team are praised for their work and their openness to the community. Why has it seem like as of late, they're purposefully destroying that legacy that Yoshi spent agonizing years building up?

To the people with the "well you asked for this" mindset; please go outside and touch grass or something...

[Jason_Ashford]

Honestly, seeing playing blame other players being like "This is what you wanted" is such a stupid mindset that runs rampant in all MMO communities is just...out of this world. Yoshi and his team are praised for their work and their openness to the community. Why has it seem like as of late, they're purposefully destroying that legacy that Yoshi spent agonizing years building up?

To the people with the "well you asked for this" mindset; please go outside and touch grass or something...

They act like Hrothgar players have been screaming and throwing a tantrum for the last 2.5 years when all we've asked is for them to decouple the hairstyles we already have from the faces, so we could have some form of variety. I would rather have 1 unique hairstyle for Hrothgar for every 10 hairstyles added for other races because i prefer quality over quantity.

[Adamantini]

Well, I was bored and started making memes to spread the word. Feel free to use.

[SherlottaEryut]

Honestly, seeing playing blame other players being like "This is what you wanted" is such a stupid mindset that runs rampant in all MMO communities is just...out of this world. Yoshi and his team are praised for their work and their openness to the community. Why has it seem like as of late, they're purposefully destroying that legacy that Yoshi spent agonizing years building up?

To the people with the "well you asked for this" mindset; please go outside and touch grass or something...

Here is Zepla's video on Viera and Hrothgar, at around 1:05 she comes up with proof in regards to more Viera/Hrothgar race-specific hair. I'd rather listen to a popular content creator than a bunch of speculation on the forums. Here, she has actual proof and statements from Yoshi-P - like I said, unless he states it was a mistranslation, then this is what I'll believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr6Fzn4jlUk


Just a side note:
I'm for the idea of making all Hrothgar's hair accessible on all their faces, so I'm not sure why certain Hrothgar on the forums have a mentality of "Its Viera vs the Hrothgar" no, it's not. We're both limited races.

[Akimori]

Thank you for being unnecessarily argumentative just because I have an opinion that doesn't conform with everyone elses.

Here is Zepla's video on Viera and Hrothgar, at around 1:05 she comes up with proof in regards to more Viera/Hrothgar race-specific hair. I'd rather listen to a popular content creator than a bunch of speculation on the forums. Here, she has actual proof and statements from Yoshi-P - like I said, unless he states it was a mistranslation, then this is what I'll believe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr6Fzn4jlUk

Why else do you think the idea of race specific hair was scrapped? It's obviously to do with the outcry of people asking for the current hairstyles in the game instead.

Just a side note:
I'm for the idea of making all Hrothgar's hair accessible on all their faces, so I'm not sure why certain Hrothgar on the forums have a mentality of "Its Viera vs the Hrothgar" no, it's not. We're both limited races, so stop it and behave yourself.

You're obviously confused. I wasn't being argumentative and I was agreeing with another player. Is this meant for someone else or....if it was meant for me, show me where I was disagreeing with your opinion....

[SherlottaEryut]

You're obviously confused. I wasn't being argumentative and I was agreeing with another player. Is this meant for someone else or....if it was meant for me, show me where I was disagreeing with your opinion....

I’m assuming Yencat’s message was in response to my previous text “ To the certain group of people who preached "We dont need more race-exclusive hairstyles, I just want what everyone else has" Well... Here you go - this is the standard Square Enix can provide. Viera were lucky, we kept our ears. Hrothgar got royally screwed over, imagine waiting 3+ years for this? (But hey, at least SE were given a free pass by the community to do less work for these races)”

Which I though her message was fine, but I assumed your follow up message was taking a dig at me. If I got that wrong, I’m sorry.