New hrothgar hairstyles are really bad.

[Alacran]

Worried how female Hroths are going to look now. They don't appear to be ready to show anything regarding that addition. I will say the hair shown doesn't look very good and far from what I was expecting. They should just add more custom specific styles and stay away from styles that would hide the ears,

I read through 13 pages of comments just to see if anyone would bring this up. Grats on being the first.

I was always against Hrothgar to begin with feeling their look was just to rubber faced & unnecessary to the game, but understood that was just MY opinion & others wanted them.

Looking at what the devs rolled out looks like something i would have done via malicious compliance... & that's saying something, even i feel bad for those that waited for this wretched showing.

However, this was to be expected. Back when they were announced Yoshi did say they were going to be very unique in their design, so certain aspects of their build necessitated certain limitations to the mapping of gear/ hair options.

Called it then, laughing now. I was never a fan of Hrothgar, the fact their face/hair are tied shows them to be little more than mask wearing Rogadyne with tails and bad posture. Implementation of Aura didn't separate horns, so i see no reason to expect a change with Hrothgar. I will not continue to call the dev team lazy, however i will see this as further proof Hrothgar was a mistake. Sadly Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization.

Didn't think i would get to use this again...

heh

[Midareyukki]

Nah, they wont hardly bat an eye bc people have literally requested Lyse, Hilda and Hien's hair for years- and nothing yet.
We wanted more hairs for Hrothgar and we gottem.



The exact words were "They will have a Robust customization." However, I feel it was a mistranslation and probably literally meant that they're a large race.

"We gottem". That isn't what people are complaining. And imo it's good people aren't settling for less. If any other race had this problem, they'd all up in arms just the same.

And I seriously doubt that's what it means. That's not at all what the word means in context. Also I doubt Japanese has a word with that sort of synonym as "Robust". "Robust customization" means "solid customization\customization with more or better options". If you want to say you'll be customizing a large race, then you'd say other words in conjunction to that. It's not even a matter of being vague, that's literally grasping at straws to justify what has been said. Also, speaking as a translator here but it's ridiculously easy to blame translations for everything people misunderstand. We have people here who know Japanese enough to be more specific than "probably". That just isn't how people refer to "robust characters" when it comes to customizing them, it'd be non-English. And for as many flaws as Business Division 3's interpreters may have, they're not bad to the point of making such a mistake.

I read through 13 pages of comments just to see if anyone would bring this up. Grats on being the first.

People have been saying the same so far just with different words. Perhaps your reading comprehension requires a bit of tuning before you decide to be smug.

[Raskbuck]

3 years for this, huh?

Do we still need a Fantasia to change our hairstyle? lol.

[juicybug]

Those are NPC's hairstyles, it's different. You already got a phletora of hairstyles, while us, no.

I understand exactly where you're coming from bc I played a Hrothgar for a short time, but the clown makeup got kind of heavy after they were ignored for this long and still are being ignored. Idk what player base they listen to but it clearly isn't the FFXIV Hrothgar one.
But also, there is no harm in wanting QUALITY hairstyles that NPC's have. Regardless of how many we have- only a fraction of the "plethora" are actually "good."
Enough doesn't = good quality.
Asking for NPC hairs is always met with resistance from other players in some way just like you did here. I support Hrothgar having more hairs- better hairs and them being allowed to talk to change hairs for gil and not fantasia.

I came from 8 years of GW2 and many of those years I played a Charr- and Hrothgar are getting the Charr treatment. Anet's excuse was "bc they are the least played race" but never considered if they actually fixed the problems persisting with them that the # of Charr players would likely increase.

[Fourbestintoner]

*the ears are housed within the hair*
Actual lie, you can glitch the game to remove their hair and they won't lose their ears.

[juicybug]

I feel that it was a mistranslation and it's perfectly valid that I think it is. Otherwise it's a lie, and the clown makeup is skewing people's views.

[Midareyukki]

I feel that it was a mistranslation and it's perfectly valid that I think it is. Otherwise it's a lie, and the clown makeup is skewing people's views.

Are you a translator? If so, what are your qualifications? Are you a Japanese native with enough experience to translate into English or back? You can't just up and make up a translation just because you feel like it is right. Not to mention a language has rules of use, and that is not how one would refer to the same context whatsoever.

But I see it'll fall on deaf ears regardless. So w\e.

[Karowolus]

In the end really. It's stupid. We've waited 3+ years for this. And we get this?
Imagine if it was done on a different race. People would be up in arms about it. But Hrothgar? Only 3% of the playerbase plays them. Not worth it.

Most people basically just view hrothgar as Furry Roegadyns. And sure, our models may share the same proportions when it comes to gear. But I wouldn't fantasia to a Roegadyn anytime soon. I can assure you of that. I'd sooner become a Lala than fantasia to Roegadyn. The appeal for some of us players isn't 'OOO BIG BEEFY MAN', or something along those lines. To some of us it's the appeal of playing something that doesn't look human. Something that's different. It's the same reason why people play Worgen and Tauren in WoW, and Charr in GW2. And Argonians and Khajit in Elder Scrolls. If they did this to Miqo'te. People would be up in arms in support. And even the JP forums are agreeing in the idea that taking away the ears just removes the point of the race to begin with.

If you take a Miqo'te's ears away, they're just Hyur. If you take a Viera's ears away. They're just Hyur. But you take a hrothgar's ears away? It just looks wrong.

[Alacran]

"We gottem". That isn't what people are complaining. And imo it's good people aren't settling for less. If any other race had this problem, they'd all up in arms just the same.

And I seriously doubt that's what it means. That's not at all what the word means in context. Also I doubt Japanese has a word with that sort of synonym as "Robust". "Robust customization" means "solid customization\customization with more or better options". If you want to say you'll be customizing a large race, then you'd say other words in conjunction to that. It's not even a matter of being vague, that's literally grasping at straws to justify what has been said. Also, speaking as a translator here but it's ridiculously easy to blame translations for everything people misunderstand. We have people here who know Japanese enough to be more specific than "probably". That just isn't how people refer to "robust characters" when it comes to customizing them, it'd be non-English. And for as many flaws as Business Division 3's interpreters may have, they're not bad to the point of making such a mistake.



People have been saying the same so far just with different words. Perhaps your reading comprehension requires a bit of tuning before you decide to be smug.

No need to be cross, Yoshi & the devs are just saying there's only...

so many ways to skin a cat.

[Karowolus]

No need to be cross, Yoshi & the devs are just saying there's only...

so many ways to skin a cat.

You really aren't helping. We don't need people here defending what is blatant laziness from the developers... If we are content with sub-par content, It'll be a slippery slope that eventually results in the game itself becoming sub-par. We're complaining about this because we love this game. We want to see an improvement and don't want to see a game that we put time and money into start to sink because the developers accept sub-par results.