Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

[AlexionSkyllark]

That is also a problem.

But the healer role's dps rotation being limited to one DD and one DoT is inexcusable. If I was a game developer, I'd be embarrassed to think that is engaging gameplay.

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

[HyoMinPark]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

They’ve already said that they are not upping healing requirements or the amount of damage healers have to heal. We’ve already tried asking for this. Multiple times. Over the last 4-6 years. It didn’t work. So we’re asking for more engaging DPS because we spend most of our time doing that. And it isn’t going to change any time soon.

The developers are the ones who made healer DPS necessary by the way. Not only because healers do so much personal damage (and have since late HW/early SB), but also because they don’t make healers heal. And they make combat in this game extremely damage focused by removing every other aspect of it that was mildly interesting. Or they give every job and their mother healing abilities and/or mitigation that makes healing even more unnecessary. Instead of, maybe, giving this utility to the healers. “But that would be too difficult for the baby healers”, so we can’t have that.

But sure, continue to blame the whining Green DPS players for what the developers actively did. I am so sick of seeing this kind of attitude.

[IDontPetLalas]

They slide does state that it's not an exhaustive list of the adjustments to these or other jobs. They mentioned healers are also getting MP changes (not mentioned in slide). We are currently unsure whether they know the full extent of issues that doesn't only relate to Ultimate or the full extent of the incoming changes. Whether they actually understand the full problem is a different story.

I think WHM got a new PVP skill in the 6.1 trailer, so there's hope.
...Though we're unsure whether that is going to be part of PvE. So I'm very doubtful.

Haven't we heard that before?

[Mimilu]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

As you said in your first post ever on the forums, this is XIV, not WoW. Healers DPS here. >w>

[Rilifane]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

That's a lot of opinion for alarmingly little knowledge.
The devs said no. For roughly 5 years. After getting asked again and again. By healers.
Increasing the healing requirement across the board but especially for endgame content was actually the first thing healer mains asked for because they didn't like spending the vast majority of their time with one 30s dot and one nuke.
They went on record saying that it will never happen because it would drive away the baby healers, make healing less accessible, force too much responsibility on healers and increase the chance of wipes and abandoned duties because the healing requirement couldn't be met. Even in Savage fights the only heal checks are usually one of the last mechanics - and the first that gets skipped.
The amount of healing required to keep a somewhat competent healer engaged would make the forums explode with complaints with how impossible content became.
The game is extremely dps-focused because the devs want it like that not because a bunch of "whiners" or filthy green dps that secretly want to play dps but prefer healer queue times asked for it.

But keep blaming us for the state of healers when you have absolutely no idea about the stance of the devs OR the healer community.
Or may, just maybe, do some research.

[Acece]

As you said in your first post ever on the forums, this is XIV, not WoW. Healers DPS here. >w>

Good healers in wow also dps lol. Healer dps in almost every mmo now.

[einschwartz]

Job changes presented in todays Letter:
SCH
-Sacred Soil's range has increased to 10 yalms
-Expedience's sprint effect has been reduced from 20 seconds to 10 seconds.

Nooo my extra town sprint.

[Deceptus]

Nooo my extra town sprint.

Pick up a pair of Strider Boots They give you a bonus 10s to sprint in towns for any job.

[BaconBits]

HEALING as a healer should be engaging, not DPSing. it's already bad enough that the devs caved in to the whiners and normalized Healer DPS. What they should adjust the gameplay to is making players having to heal more and DPS less. More unpredictable damage, less healing downtimes, more hostile dmg output across the board.

I swear to god if I see one more "HEALERS HEAL" post I'm going to lose my shit.

[AnotherPerson]

Haven't we heard that before?

That's just me on copium as usual. I'll probably be playing PvP instead. Lmao :'(