Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post
I've seen lots of confusion about whether they were or weren't and suggestions that this line might not even be true, given what we are told in EW. I have no idea. It's not too surprising when they can't keep the lore straight from one EP to the very next one.

Speaking of lore that is confusing, what's the deal with the Echo these days? I remember being told a while ago that the Echo was what was protecting me from being tempered but in EW they say it's a sparkly "blessing" that's doing it, which doesn't really add up as neither Fordola nor Zenos had said blessing and Primals didn't faze them at all.
I "thought" that Hydalyn's Blessing and Venat's Travelers Ward were one and the same? As for the Echo, I can't recall the conversation exactly, but when we were with Venat on the island using the Echo to look into Hermes and Metions past interaction, I was under the impression it was more of a skill that the Ancients could harness by looking through the soul of an individual recalling a memory, or by examination of the Aesthetical ripples in an area, and us and others were decedents of that ability. Or something like that at least. Fordola's and Zenos's were artificial, though with Zenos being a bloodline descendant of Emet-Selch, I so wonder if any Ancient power found it way to him.