What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Ixon]

Lv.88 MSQ Agriculture Shock - Cookingway:
"Such strength of will... Now I know what Hydaelyn sees in your kind.
Mankind, the Loporrits─we were both born from the accumulated knowledge of the ancients.
They learned all there is to learn about the nature of sentient life and the fates of the stars themselves.
Once a civilization has fulfilled the basic requirements for survival, it will inevitably seek to eliminate all forms of negativity and achieve perfection.
And therein lies its folly...and its downfall.
For perfection is an unattainable ideal. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot.
Yet civilizations since time immemorial have deemed the pursuit of perfection as “progress.” They pay no heed to the costs incurred in their futile quest, and all too often become the architects of their own demise, their dreams forever unfulfilled.
What, then, is the alternative? The answer lies in knowing that our existence can never be perfect. To be content with what we have and make the most of it.
When life gives you lemons, make lemon muffins!"

Can't make a lemon muffin without cracking a few Ancients.

[Skyborne]

Lv.88 MSQ Agriculture Shock - Cookingway:
"Such strength of will... Now I know what Hydaelyn sees in your kind.
Mankind, the Loporrits─we were both born from the accumulated knowledge of the ancients.
They learned all there is to learn about the nature of sentient life and the fates of the stars themselves.
Once a civilization has fulfilled the basic requirements for survival, it will inevitably seek to eliminate all forms of negativity and achieve perfection.
And therein lies its folly...and its downfall.
For perfection is an unattainable ideal. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot.
Yet civilizations since time immemorial have deemed the pursuit of perfection as “progress.” They pay no heed to the costs incurred in their futile quest, and all too often become the architects of their own demise, their dreams forever unfulfilled.
What, then, is the alternative? The answer lies in knowing that our existence can never be perfect. To be content with what we have and make the most of it.
When life gives you lemons, make lemon muffins!"

Can't make a lemon muffin without cracking a few Ancients.

I, too, enjoyed having a funny moon rabbit practically break the fourth wall to preach to me.

Also do you have some issue with death? Do you hate that things die and dont magically live forever in happy go lucky world?

Try suggesting this to a Scion fan. :^)

[Lauront]

I, too, enjoyed having a funny moon rabbit practically break the fourth wall to preach to me.

And the fact that you can induce an existential crisis in the Writers by simply not seeing it the way they want you to, no matter how much the same puerile message is vomited out at you. :`) How can this be, such brilliant writing! Pearls before swine, I tell you.

[Ixon]

I, too, enjoyed having a funny moon rabbit practically break the fourth wall to preach to me.

Idk what game you have been playing, but this game has been preaching hope, and kindness, and friendship, and the power of love since ARR from children to dragons to beastmen to bunnies.

[NanaWiloh]

That doesn't make the deaths that happened necessary.

If I stab you to death right now and over the next year, your corpse becomes food for maggots and fertilizes a bed of flowers, that doesn't make your death necessary or good.

Yes, life goes on after death. That doesn't prove it's part of a grand plan.

EDIT: Replying to below, since I've apparently hit my daily limit again.



I mentioned mass extinction and you said: "And life replaces what was lost even if its not the same."

So, the deaths of mass extinction, since we apparently need a refresher.



You have been saying things like "life and death keep each other in check" and "life replaces what was lost" as if life is some fine-tuned system or grand plan.

As I said, just because life moves on after death doesn't mean that there's some sort of natural check and balance in place.




Let me turn this question around on you, so you realize how silly it sounds.

Do you love death? Do you hate things don't drop dead everywhere we go and feel sad that we aren't living in a nuclear zombie wasteland?

It's not about "loving" or "hating" death. But personally, I refuse to be nonchalant about it or treat it like no big deal. Eventually, it'll come for all of us, if not all life on this planet, but if (hypothetically speaking) some future generation managed to achieve the impossible and live forever, I would be happy for them.

Death is no big deal to me I do not fear it. I accept and welcome it when it comes. To me life and death are two sides of the same coin. Humanity living forever there is a joke, mankind cant even pull its head out of its own rear.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Idk what game you have been playing, but this game has been preaching hope, and kindness, and friendship, and the power of love since ARR from children to dragons to beastmen to bunnies.

Not in Endwalker it hasn’t. In Endwalker it’s been preaching how everyone must learn to suffer, genocide is okay, and it’s okay to extinct an entire race as long as you’re still living.

[Lauront]

Death is no big deal to me I do not fear it. I accept and welcome it when it comes. To me life and death are two sides of the same coin. Humanity living forever there is a joke, mankind cant even pull its head out of its own rear.

Riveting stuff. Great contribution.

[Brinne]

Man, that speech by Cookingway was probably the single point in all story content across all of FFXIV that honestly made me angriest.

[Theodric]

Idk what game you have been playing, but this game has been preaching hope, and kindness, and friendship, and the power of love since ARR from children to dragons to beastmen to bunnies.

...and back in the days of ARR and HW, it was tempered by healthy levels of grit, realism and consequences.

[Skyborne]

Man, that speech by Cookingway was probably the single point in all story content across all of FFXIV that honestly made me angriest.

As Y'shtola so aptly put it: "lol, lmaaaaaao, not MY problem, I'll keep doing it."