Ishgard Housing Details are Out

[Alleo]

It's way more preferable to the FCFS system that promoted endless macroing/unhealthy lengths of signboard clicking that locked you out of your computer effectively for hours, LOTS of hours at a time.


Everyone gets a shot now.

Well with the old systems where I got my house you bascially needed to be there on patch day, log in right away (hope for no dc) and run towards your house. If you were lucky you then got it with one click. If not you could still try to get another house. On top of that if you just got a small you could just relocate later without any timers and stuff like that.

The timers were horrible but I dont see how this system is much better. Because now you might even get less of a chance because many people can now just put their bid down which will increase the amount of competition. And at the same time you can only bid once too.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

The timers were horrible but I dont see how this system is much better. Because now you might even get less of a chance because many people can now just put their bid down which will increase the amount of competition. And at the same time you can only bid once too.

Simple, no more advantages for people who can book a day off work.

Also if a house is freed up you no longer need to deal with relocators or have to glue yourself to a signboard for a plot, just stick your lot in and wait.

It seems the main problem some people have is they cannot take advantage over people who may not be able to commit to the critical moment due to things like work.

[Alleo]

Simple, no more advantages for people who can book a day off work.

Also if a house is freed up you no longer need to deal with relocators or have to glue yourself to a signboard for a plot, just stick your lot in and wait.

It seems the main problem some people have is they cannot take advantage over people who may not be able to commit to the critical moment due to things like work.

Which in return means that much more people will fight over the plots which decreases the chances for each person itself.

Well good luck for every private player wanting a house, it will probably get even harder to just own a small one since FCs will have a much higher chance thanks to being able to bid on more than one house.

I am a bit happy that I dont have to do this anymore.

Starting to wonder if introducing an aggressive taxation system alongside the current demolition timer would be a good idea? .

House owners already have do pay a tax, its called monthly sub. Unlike other players we cant just take 3 months off without losing our house.

Instead of punishing house owners even more, lets wish for a much better system where neither the demolition timer nor the lottery would be needed...after all SE gets a lot of money through our subs. Maybe its time to push a bit of that into housing. After all they at the same time keep on giving us so many housing items as rewards.

[UkcsAlias]

House owners already have do pay a tax, its called monthly sub..

Thats a global tax, not a housing tax. Housing doesnt cost anything extra on that, hence it doesnt have a tax.

An actual housing tax would on that at least be a good way to sustain the server costs for housing and should allow more plots.

[Alleo]

Thats a global tax, not a housing tax. Housing doesnt cost anything extra on that, hence it doesnt have a tax.

An actual housing tax would on that at least be a good way to sustain the server costs for housing and should allow more plots.

And yet if you dont have a house and take a break for three months you will come back with all of your inventory still intact. You would not just suddenly have lost millions of gil or half of your glamours. House owners can only stay away from the game for 45 days. After that they will lose their house. If that is a medium or even large one, it will be nearly impossible to get that back. And as far as I know if you dont take back your house items in a certain amount of time they will too get deleted....

So we are already paying for the server costs because unlike others we have to nearly constantly pay the sub and go into the game to keep the sub. We cant just come back every patch and take breaks between those.

[Vrankyl]

Which in return means that much more people will fight over the plots which decreases the chances for each person itself.

Well good luck for every private player wanting a house, it will probably get even harder to just own a small one since FCs will have a much higher chance thanks to being able to bid on more than one house.

They already addressed this. Private owners and FCs will not be bidding on the same plots. Going forward under this new system plots will be marked for FC or for personal, not both that way personal buyers aren't competing against the FCs.

[dspguy]

House owners already have do pay a tax, its called monthly sub. Unlike other players we cant just take 3 months off without losing our house.

It is genius on SE's end to keep supply low and demand high. Look at this way:

There's about 70 servers. Each server has 4 cities, 24 wards, 60 plots per ward which is 5760 plots per server. Well under the demand of the playerbase. No one wants to lose their house. The vast majority of those players will pay that sub even if they aren't actively playing in fear of losing a piece of digital real estate that is hard to come by.

5760 plots per server and about 70 servers. That's 400,000 plots across all servers. Each of those 400,000 plots are paying about $15/mo. That's $6M US every month coming to SE. And with the addition of Isghard (70 x 1440 plots) that is likely another $1.5M per month on top of that. They have people paying them for not playing the game. Genius.

*** Obviously some houses are owned by FCs but it still requires at least one FC member to pay a sub to keep it. I rounded down on most of this to account for people like that Lucius FC that has 60 houses.

[Jojoya]

It is genius on SE's end to keep supply low and demand high. Look at this way:

There's about 70 servers. Each server has 4 cities, 24 wards, 60 plots per ward which is 5760 plots per server. Well under the demand of the playerbase. No one wants to lose their house. The vast majority of those players will pay that sub even if they aren't actively playing in fear of losing a piece of digital real estate that is hard to come by.

5760 plots per server and about 70 servers. That's 400,000 plots across all servers. Each of those 400,000 plots are paying about $15/mo. That's $6M US every month coming to SE. And with the addition of Isghard (70 x 1440 plots) that is likely another $1.5M per month on top of that. They have people paying them for not playing the game. Genius.

*** Obviously some houses are owned by FCs but it still requires at least one FC member to pay a sub to keep it. I rounded down on most of this to account for people like that Lucius FC that has 60 houses.

I promise you not all of us are paying a sub solely to keep a house. Some of us actually enjoy the rest of the game so we're paying to play.

You also don't have to stay constantly subbed to keep a house. Sub for a month, unsub for 6 weeks, keep rotating on that schedule. As long as you reset the timer the first and last day of your subbed month, you have nothing to worry about. Don't forget to take advantage of demolition suspensions (funny how often demolition gets suspended if SE is using housing to force people to keep a sub) and the free log in periods when they line up with your unsubbed periods so you can log in, reset the timer and take an extra unpaid month off.

It's not SE's genius at work. There are too many exceptions in the system for houses to be intended to keep people subbed.

It's the idiocy of the average consumer at work. They're happy to keep paying money solely to own something they do not need and almost never use when they could be putting the money to better use.

[dspguy]

I promise you not all of us are paying a sub solely to keep a house. Some of us actually enjoy the rest of the game so we're paying to play.

I'm not saying it matters if someone is subbed to keep a house or not. What I'm saying is that 400,000 plots is roughly 400,000 permanent subscribers. Soon to be 500,000 plots and 500,000 subscribers.

You also don't have to stay constantly subbed to keep a house. Sub for a month, unsub for 6 weeks, keep rotating on that schedule. As long as you reset the timer the first and last day of your subbed month, you have nothing to worry about.

Of course you don't have to stay subbed 100% of the time. Plenty do.

The bigger picture here is... SE is pulling in a near guaranteed 7.5M/mo after Ishgard housing is bought up. That's 90M/year from players whether they play the game or not. And keeping the housing supply tight works in their favor.