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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    Under the old/current system, you aren't guaranteed a mansion and have to compete with a lot of other players who also have gil to buy the mansion. You could have multiple people in your FC try and buy the mansion too but they all need to have enough gil on them to purchase. So how is this a slap to people without houses?
    The old system gives you far more of a chance against the few who are there. Macro'ing or not. My Personal and my FC house was done by clicking against Macro'rs. My GF's house too. This new system only allows for literally EVERYONE who didn't give a shit before to throw their ticket in just because they can, then go back to doing anything else they'd rather have been doing in the old system. Lets take into account that LARGE FC's can put in like 60+ tickets on a house. And as my other post said. Many of those large FC's, ESPECIALLY the large toxic ones, have made alt characters with new FC's that they leveled in like 2 days back when this was first announced and are gonna use those to put even more tickets in to own or try to own entire wards.

    And you'll say no, that won't happen. But it's already being talked abotu by them in the backend Sub Reddits. Multiple alt FC's with alternating leaders so that they bypass the "X house per one account" system. While also spamming entries with all alt members.
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  2. #82
    Player HollowedDoll's Avatar
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    Tomboy Outback
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    Under the old/current system, you aren't guaranteed a mansion and have to compete with a lot of other players who also have gil to buy the mansion. You could have multiple people in your FC try and buy the mansion too but they all need to have enough gil on them to purchase. So how is this a slap to people without houses?
    If you were dedicated enough you could get a house, by no life camping a spot to hours end, without sleep while others give up around you. It wasn't ideal at all at the end of the day, but you had that choice. Now you might get lucky but 90% of people won't, and you can't make up for it in any way. Honestly it wouldn't bother me if they just wiped the entire system and replaced it with instanced housing, most neighbourhoods look really ugly with paissa and other mismatching styles anyway.
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  3. #83
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    Luna Sol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    The old system gives you far more of a chance against the few who are there. Macro'ing or not. My Personal and my FC house was done by clicking against Macro'rs. My GF's house too. This new system only allows for literally EVERYONE who didn't give a shit before to throw their ticket in just because they can, then go back to doing anything else they'd rather have been doing in the old system. Lets take into account that LARGE FC's can put in like 60+ tickets on a house. And as my other post said. Many of those large FC's, ESPECIALLY the large toxic ones, have made alt characters with new FC's that they leveled in like 2 days back when this was first announced and are gonna use those to put even more tickets in to own or try to own entire wards.

    And you'll say no, that won't happen. But it's already being talked abotu by them in the backend Sub Reddits. Multiple alt FC's with alternating leaders so that they bypass the "X house per one account" system. While also spamming entries with all alt members.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    If you were dedicated enough you could get a house, by no life camping a spot to hours end, without sleep while others give up around you. It wasn't ideal at all at the end of the day, but you had that choice. Now you might get lucky but 90% of people won't, and you can't make up for it in any way. Honestly it wouldn't bother me if they just wiped the entire system and replaced it with instanced housing, most neighbourhoods look really ugly with paissa and other mismatching styles anyway.
    Fair point. And I'm aware about individuals with lots of alts for the sole purpose of owning FCs. We have one on Gilgamesh that's a huge problem and we all know that person botted with multiple alts (multiple accounts) to get the FC houses he currently owns.
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    Last edited by Thamorian; 03-29-2022 at 06:10 AM.
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  4. #84
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    They could alleviate a lot of this by making the apartments more interesting than a square plain box. The Crystarium and Kugane inn rooms, or the GC squad rooms for example would be much better options for apartments.
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  6. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    They could alleviate a lot of this by making the apartments more interesting than a square plain box. The Crystarium and Kugane inn rooms, or the GC squad rooms for example would be much better options for apartments.
    Those rooms you just mentioned are sill square plain boxes that they dressed up. Learn to place your furniture and you too can make it look the same.
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  7. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    Fair point. And I'm aware about individuals with lots of alts for the sole purpose of owning FCs. We have one on Gilgamesh that's a huge problem and we all know that person botted with multiple alts (multiple accounts) to get the FC houses he currently owns.
    Yep and thse people will do the same thing to own plots now. By bypassing the system put in place. There was nothing wrong with it before. The people who wanted houses fought for it, one way or another. While everyone else was off doing their own thing. Now it's just going to be a cluster all over again.
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  8. #87
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    Lala Felon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronologic View Post
    What I'd like know, can multiple people from and FC put in lottery entries for different plots? It Didn't clarify that, as it said only one character may register an entry, but not if you could send FC members to try for different plots on the same lottery period, assuming you have the funds. For example, can I put a bid on a mansion, and have my other FC leader put another bid on an entirely different mansion somewhere else.
    They specifically addressed this in the live letter saying they designed the system to benefit the largest FCs. FCs can enter as many times as they have members and gil.
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  9. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Those rooms you just mentioned are sill square plain boxes that they dressed up. Learn to place your furniture and you too can make it look the same.

    No, they are not square, they are larger spaces. (likely 2 boxes wide). The inn rooms have views outside you'd be pressed to create with a mansion size. By "learn to place furniture" do you mean spend hours upon hours trying to wrestle with bugs? What fun.
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  10. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    No, they are not square, they are larger spaces. (likely 2 boxes wide). The inn rooms have views outside you'd be pressed to create with a mansion size. By "learn to place furniture" do you mean spend hours upon hours trying to wrestle with bugs? What fun.
    Hours? Are you playing with your feet?
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    Hours? Are you playing with your feet?
    Are you going to stop coming across as a jerk? That should be priority #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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