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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    Honestly we should just get the Garlean race period. The whole bit about magic is a bit odd since there are Garleans that can use aether, they are rare but they happen and since the player character is supposed to be an anomaly anyway I don't see how it is a problem. I mean... *gestures at cat bois and bun bois*
    Garleans with the third eye are pure blooded, and pure-blooded garleans can't manipulate aether. One of the plot points in Garlemald was how magic was seen as so alien and terrifying to the garlean citizens because they could not do it, and it does not have a root in their culture as it does everywhere else.

    The only ""magic"" they've been capable of producing came as the byproduct of horrific scientific experiments (zenos), and by making pacts with voidsent (reapers).

    Also garleans largely just use the elezen model with rounded ears, not exactly an exciting new race. Would be better to just have it as a cosmetic item
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Garleans with the third eye are pure blooded, and pure-blooded garleans can't manipulate aether. One of the plot points in Garlemald was how magic was seen as so alien and terrifying to the garlean citizens because they could not do it, and it does not have a root in their culture as it does everywhere else.

    The only ""magic"" they've been capable of producing came as the byproduct of horrific scientific experiments (zenos), and by making pacts with voidsent (reapers).

    Also garleans largely just use the elezen model with rounded ears, not exactly an exciting new race. Would be better to just have it as a cosmetic item
    Also to add to this, most of those Garleans you see casting spells are not really Garleans, you can consider them as conscripts that the Garleans took in to serve them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Garleans with the third eye are pure blooded, and pure-blooded garleans can't manipulate aether. One of the plot points in Garlemald was how magic was seen as so alien and terrifying to the garlean citizens because they could not do it, and it does not have a root in their culture as it does everywhere else.

    The only ""magic"" they've been capable of producing came as the byproduct of horrific scientific experiments (zenos), and by making pacts with voidsent (reapers).

    Also garleans largely just use the elezen model with rounded ears, not exactly an exciting new race. Would be better to just have it as a cosmetic item
    This is incorrect. Per the Encyclopedia Eorzea: "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    There are pure-blooded Garleans capable of using aether, it is rare but it is possible. And seeing how the player character is the special chosen one that defies all social norms of their race (again see Male Viera and Male Mi'qote), there is no reason for us to not have them as a race. Nor do pure blooded Garleans only use the elezen model. Cid uses the Highlander model, and several pure blooded Garleans in the Garlemald zone use the midlander model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Garleans with the third eye are pure blooded, and pure-blooded garleans can't manipulate aether..
    I believe one of the Encylopedia Eorzeas (I forget if it's the first or second) states directly that a very small percentage of Garleans are in fact capable of utilizing aether. We've also had two separate in-game examples of pure-blooded Garleans using actual magic, not counting Zenos' unique brand of strangeness and Lucia.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 03-28-2022 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    I believe one of the Encylopedia Eorzeas (I forget if it's the first or second) states directly that a very small percentage of Garleans are in fact capable of utilizing aether. We've also had two separate in-game examples of pure-blooded Garleans using actual magic, not counting Zenos' unique brand of strangeness and Lucia.
    "Garleans have little inborn ability to manipulate their body's aether, however, and thus the arcane arts have ever eluded all but a few."

    The Encyclopedia is written from an in-universe perspective, to me the entry comes across as much like hearsay as anything. The writer would likely have heard tales of Garleans using magic, some have been known to use it after all, Zenos and Reapers being obvious examples, but it's not really magic as Eorzeans know it.

    Also, if I remember correctly from last time this debate came up, Lucia doesn't use magic anymore. Kind of a shame in my opinion, I liked the idea of a Garlean spy putting in ridiculous amounts of effort and training in order to use a novice level spell as part of their cover.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 03-28-2022 at 06:59 AM.