Machinist needs some reworking

[Mortex]

You mean copying a already established job word for word? Lol no it wouldn’t be cool and this would be a jump toward job homogenization. This whole idea of “Enshroud but” will never fit well with MCH strict toothless heat mechanic unless said mechanic was upgraded or reworked.

This may be a logical perspective or a hot take but any job replicating a person from a game from the 32 bit era will inevitably be very shallow and should stop trying to glorify it. “Omg it plays just like Edgar from FF6!” Disregarding party synergy being a huge reason why the old final fantasy games were good, resulting in a hodgepodge of barley connected skills that only appeal in superficials not tangibility. It’s not a bad identity but firearms is part of its identity, why else did the MCH community moo when the shotgun of all things was the crowned “best skill” from its EW minuscule kit

Oh pls the moment they took ammunition away from mch and made it a 123 rotation with some elements of hectic dark knight gameplay then it was already homogenization.

And ofc shotgun is the best skill for mch because all the other are just meh. Air anchor 2 with saws and a ability the queen does automatically (if she doesn’t bug out and just eats the ability).

The job design team took the gadget route for mch so they either need to rewind that or expand on it.

[Azuri]

And ofc shotgun is the best skill for mch because all the other are just meh. Air anchor 2 with saws and a ability the queen does automatically (if she doesn’t bug out and just eats the ability).

Hot take but shotgun is absolutely the worst addition out of all EW abilities. Crown Collider and Chainsaw are boring but at least they don't actively look awful. Shotgun animation isn't meant for a spammanble. The endless cycle of conjuring a shotgun from thin air, cocking it and then tossing away after a single shot just to repeat the whole animation again is the stupidest thing.

[CKNovel]

[QUOTE=Azuri;5871989]Hot take but shotgun is absolutely the worst addition out of all EW abilities. Crown Collider and Chainsaw are boring but at least they don't actively look awful./QUOTE]

Yep, that's one hell of a big hot take.
While chainsaw is a very good ability gameplay wise and it's a new button, MCH needed more but that's a first step.
Shotgun makes dungeon less boring, mostly because of the 5 -> 10 heat, but also because spreadshot was not a great GCD, gameplay or visually.
You won't repeat shotgun more than 5 times in a row.

But Crown Collider is among the worst abilities ever added to the game.
It doesn't make the Queen more engaging that before, it only makes it more frustrating when facing multiple targets.
And visually? I don't look at the Queen 99% of the time. But a "stronger explosive punch" is visually boring.

In ShB you press the button and you forget about the Queen.
In EW you press the button and forget about the Queen.

"""Gameplay"""

[Azuri]

Yep, that's one hell of a big hot take.
While chainsaw is a very good ability gameplay wise and it's a new button, MCH needed more but that's a first step.
Shotgun makes dungeon less boring, mostly because of the 5 -> 10 heat, but also because spreadshot was not a great GCD, gameplay or visually.
You won't repeat shotgun more than 5 times in a row.

But Crown Collider is among the worst abilities ever added to the game.
It doesn't make the Queen more engaging that before, it only makes it more frustrating when facing multiple targets.
And visually? I don't look at the Queen 99% of the time. But a "stronger explosive punch" is visually boring.

In ShB you press the button and you forget about the Queen.
In EW you press the button and forget about the Queen.

"""Gameplay"""

MCH AoE gameplay was bad in ShB too (like many other jobs, tbf) but at least it didn't look awful. Scattershot looks bad and I don't feel it improved gameplay much. With the current animation using it more than once feels stupid, it looks like it's supposed to be the AoE Drill, not a spammable. I personally vastly prefer Spread Shot. And now that I think of it, more heat only makes the issue worse because Auto Crossbow suffers from the same "not intended as a spammable" animation while constantly reminding me that Heat Blast at least resets oGCD charges.

And, look, I get it, you really don't like Queen. It's not great, sure. But neither is "copy RPR's Enshroud and put us in a mech because Edgar did it".