Machinist needs some reworking

[CKNovel]

I do agree, Scatter gun is a much welcome change compared to spreadshot.
It makes dungeons better but that's it. It's a dungeon upgrade and nothing else.

It shouldn't be removed, it's very good.

But it definitely wasn't a priority.
Flamethrower, Wildfire, Automaton Queen and Heat gauge definitely needed much more attention than Scattergun.

[Raikai]

I do agree, Scatter gun is a much welcome change compared to spreadshot.
It makes dungeons better but that's it. It's a dungeon upgrade and nothing else.

It shouldn't be removed, it's very good.

But it definitely wasn't a priority.
Flamethrower, Wildfire, Automaton Queen and Heat gauge definitely needed much more attention than Scattergun.

Flamethrower should defnitely have a heat generation behind it so it would be on par with Scattergun's, I'm fine with it being a trash mob tool, many other jobs got stuff they only use for dungeons. Also it's not exactly a MCH issue, but I'd LOVE if the combat engine got an upgrade to accomodate better channeled actions, because sucks that FT locks you in place for so long and you can't even turn.

Wildfire, I honestly have no idea on what to do with it to make interesting it remaining in the theme of a timed bomb...

AQ, I'm on the bandwagon that it should be upgraded to some sort of exo-armor and you get to execute a melee rotation with it.

Heat gauge... I'm fine with how it is right now, but Heat Blast could defnitely use an actual combo, or at least a finisher of some sorts.

[Sorzai]

Wildfire, I honestly have no idea on what to do with it to make interesting it remaining in the theme of a timed bomb...

it doesn't have to be interesting. At least to me, i find that wildfire/heat blast spam takes away the focus of a finisher from AQ. It's the build up to a finisher is a significant aspect in any job which i find lacking in MCH.

AQ, I'm on the bandwagon that it should be upgraded to some sort of exo-armor and you get to execute a melee rotation with it.

I don't disagree that an exo-armor would be a nice addition, but i don't think it should be part of a MCH's kit and i dislike the idea of giving a ranged dps a melee rotation, i mean if you want a melee rotation, there's red mage. I would much rather have AQ fire a huge ass beam much like Iron Man's Proton Cannon in marvel vs. capcom, or let me pilot a mech that rains destruction for a couple seconds and send it to self-destruct like D.Va's mech.

[MerlinCross]

We’ve already seen them basically gut Gun from MCH.

We get mechanic suit, it’s gonna be fighting for Edgar Tool time support let alone anything else. I’d rather not give MCH more stuff to tear itself apart over.

[Jirah]

I do agree, Scatter gun is a much welcome change compared to spreadshot.
It makes dungeons better but that's it. It's a dungeon upgrade and nothing else.

It shouldn't be removed, it's very good.

But it definitely wasn't a priority.
Flamethrower, Wildfire, Automaton Queen and Heat gauge definitely needed much more attention than Scattergun.

Seconded. If anything it gave me hope for MCH to not only be a gadgeteer but also a one-man-army. Handgun is for 1-2-3, Shotgun for aoe (I want more shotgun action in the future tbh) and maybe some heavy duty stuff like Gatling guns, bazookas, Sniper rifles, heavy rifles, augmented ammunition, high caliber weaponry, rockets, launchers, the list is literally limitless combined with its machinery and with this endless potential the job is shockingly one note for somthing that could be so great

[Mortex]

We’ve already seen them basically gut Gun from MCH.

We get mechanic suit, it’s gonna be fighting for Edgar Tool time support let alone anything else. I’d rather not give MCH more stuff to tear itself apart over.

I mean in all fairness it’s called machinist and not gunslinger or gunner. Like the name implies he uses mechanical tools to defeat his enemies.

[Silver-Strider]

Seconded. If anything it gave me hope for MCH to not only be a gadgeteer but also a one-man-army. Handgun is for 1-2-3, Shotgun for aoe (I want more shotgun action in the future tbh) and maybe some heavy duty stuff like Gatling guns, bazookas, Sniper rifles, heavy rifles, augmented ammunition, high caliber weaponry, rockets, launchers, the list is literally limitless combined with its machinery and with this endless potential the job is shockingly one note for somthing that could be so great

Flamethrower should just be changed to a low level version of Bio-blaster if they can't be bothered to make it useful. Then, they could add back Grenade Shot to act as a 1-2 combo with Shotgun so that MCH isn't so 1 note in its AoE rotation.

It wouldn't fix much but it at least adds back some flavor if nothing else

[Jirah]

I mean in all fairness it’s called machinist and not gunslinger or gunner. Like the name implies he uses mechanical tools to defeat his enemies.

In all fairness Bard doesn’t let it’s own identity limit it to just songs it’s both archery and songstress, from its first reveal back during ARR it has always been a gunner job. Out of all of the stupid MCH remakes I hate it when people submit to limitations like this

[Jirah]

Flamethrower should just be changed to a low level version of Bio-blaster if they can't be bothered to make it useful. Then, they could add back Grenade Shot to act as a 1-2 combo with Shotgun so that MCH isn't so 1 note in its AoE rotation.

It wouldn't fix much but it at least adds back some flavor if nothing else

Bio blaster feels worse to play now that Scatter gun gives a clean 10 heat prompting more hyper charging. So this wouldn’t be a good fix just removing one skill for the sake of what? Organic gameplay or lack there or? Funnily enough in terms of Aoe MCH has one of the worst ones in the game which isn’t saying a whole lot as aoe are only rarely vital and can easily get by doing single targets only but a bad kit is a bad kit.

I’ll be frank it’s simply impossible to suggest anything for MCH, aoe or no, with its strict heat cycle being too demanding and offering no fluidity which is kinda why they’ve written themselves in a corner unless they revitalize heat somehow, or completely rework it. Best it can do is a follow up mechanics to heat similarly to BRD or SMN (if you can call it that) or have Hypercharge be on a CD and have other uses for heat. Otherwise it’s a wash

[MerlinCross]

I mean in all fairness it’s called machinist and not gunslinger or gunner. Like the name implies he uses mechanical tools to defeat his enemies.

Cool.

Shall we lose the gun and become a melee wrench using power suiting chainsawing job then?

At the very least they can maybe finally figure out and focus on what the job should actually be and feel.