What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[PawPaw]

I don't know, that didn't really work out in the Walking Dead. :P As long as there are babies being born there can be new blasphemies. Ooh, how creepy would it be if they could become one in the womb? Now it's a horror story!

Anyway, if any of y'all do Reddit, there's an interesting thread at the moment. I'm surprised to see so much criticism in a space typically intolerant of it. You wouldn't have seen this a couple of months ago.

People are still trying to downvote opposing viewpoints to the nether but it is good to see how many more people are speaking up compared to the same type of thread maybe a month ago.

[Lauront]

People are still trying to downvote opposing viewpoints to the nether but it is good to see how many more people are speaking up compared to the same type of thread maybe a month ago.

There's this too.

[Teraq]

There's this too.

Meh. Just skimmed it and it feels like more of the same to me, mostly. Kudos to what looks like Kizuya Katogami trying, down there.

That just reminds me how much I dislike, now that all is said and done, the tempering of the Convocation. I mean in-game it's never really shown to us in any significant fashion, but the cat is out of the bag anyway so it's open season on the "The Convocation were totally brainwashed!" argument. Meanwhile, we now know Mommy would never do such a thing, and anyway, she always knew the entire truth all along. God, I miss Shadowbringers when I felt like the plot was going in a grey direction.

[Rulakir]

People are still trying to downvote opposing viewpoints to the nether but it is good to see how many more people are speaking up compared to the same type of thread maybe a month ago.

I couldn't see the vote tallies when I first read it. I don't know what length of delay they have for the numbers to show. I'm glad at least that more people are voicing criticisms because the first month or so was bad with many (including myself) not feeling comfortable expressing their true thoughts.

God, I miss Shadowbringers when I felt like the plot was going in a grey direction.

Same. I can only hope the "junior writers" that Ishikawa wants to hand off to will do something interesting. I wish we knew what other storylines they'd worked on in game so I could gauge if this is a good or bad thing. I'd be a lot more hyped if the writer for HW were taking the helm.

[Kolsykol]

People are still trying to downvote opposing viewpoints to the nether but it is good to see how many more people are speaking up compared to the same type of thread maybe a month ago.

The FFXIV Reddit has a problem with automatic downvotes.
People often say that it's bots but the mods say that it's that people on the page are just for some reason significantly less likely to upvote than usual.
I have no clue but it's a very common theme that people have noticed that topics often get downvoted no matter what it is automatically.
When you see positive ratings it's usually because it has just gotten more positive engagement than usual and kinda activated people into upvoting, but normally the usual average threads get mass downvoted into oblivion for no real reason.

There's probably other Reddit pages that are like this too but I've never seen it be as bad as on the FFXIV one it's a very widespread problem that even the mods have acknowledged.

i mean lord of the rings killed one "main character" and that one realistically was as much a main character as moenbryda was, i think we can all agree that if people died left and right than it would have been to grim for a lot of people and not as beloved as it is today.

LOTR didn't really go on for as long as FFXIV did I just think it feels a tad bit silly that basically no one died in the main cast minus Minfillia.
I just think it would've left a bigger mark and had more impact if someone had died.
I don't agree with the premise of the thread, the FFXIV story is probably my favorite story of all time as a whole.
But I think like with anything it could've been better and has some negatives.

I did expect someone at least to die and was very surprised when it didn't happen, not surprised in a good way tho but it did leave me a little disappointed.
Main characters dying has more long term consequences and matters more imo.
It also raises the stakes and makes it more exciting, I want to feel like the characters are in real danger when stuff happens.