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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Technically you are wrong because if he is paying for the service he is actually entitled to that service.
    Paying a subscription allows access to the game itself. It doesn’t automatically entitle a person to a virtual house.

    I’m a firm believer that the housing system could be—and should be—much better than it is. However, OP comes off as incredibly entitled and selfish: wanting a virtual house because he thinks he deserves it over someone else. That’s the overall tone I get from his post. And it’s just disingenuous in general. And a bit disgusting to preface it with false empathy towards Ukraine and Ukrainians. His opening statement is negated by literally everything that follows after it.



    Your sub pays for access to the servers. That’s all that’s guaranteed to you when you pay it.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 03-12-2022 at 02:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Paying a subscription allows access to the game itself. It doesn’t automatically entitle a person to a virtual house.
    Not exactly. Having the chance to buy a house is part of the service and he is paying for that service. So, by the virtue of not having inactive houses demolished, he is being denied the chance to purchase a house for the most part. Don't confuse that with being entitled to a house. Whatever he gets to have a house or not is another story.

    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Your sub pays for access to the servers. That’s all that’s guaranteed to you when you pay it.
    Are you aware of consumers' rights?

    Furthermore, none of that matters because have and should have are not the same thing.

    Anyway, I wish you good luck on your virtue signaling crusade to dismiss every other issue that is not as important because we should be focusing on the number one issue instead.

    Whataboutism whataboutism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Not exactly. Having the chance to buy a house is part of the service and he is paying for that service. So, by the virtue of not having inactive houses demolished, he is being denied the chance to purchase a house for the most part. Don't confuse that with being entitled to a house. Whatever he gets to have a house or not is another story.
    You are still incorrect—OP isn’t being denied anything.

    OP still has a free shot for any houses that are willingly demolished by players that opt to get rid of them—be it because they are quitting or transferring servers. He isn’t being denied access to any aspect of game content, if you really stop to think about it. The option is still there: should a free plot come about, OP can participate in its purchase. If he was being denied access to it, he wouldn’t be able to participate in the purchasing system.

    However, housing is not guaranteed as part of the subscription price. All the subscription guarantees is access to the game and its servers. It does not mean that OP will automatically get a house, nor that he deserves it over anyone else.

    It does not provide guarantees to each and every aspect in terms of content outside of the person paying can access the game as a gateway to the content. Subs don’t guarantee housing, just like they don’t guarantee Savage clears, specific mounts, or specific items. I think you need to learn what is guaranteed as part of paying your $14.99/month, and what is not guaranteed. There is nuance there.

    Are you aware of consumers' rights?

    Furthermore, none of that matters because have and should have are not the same thing.

    Anyway, I wish you good luck on your virtue signaling crusade to dismiss every other issue that is not as important because we should be focusing on the number one issue instead.

    Whataboutism whataboutism
    Yeah, I don’t see any virtue signaling or whataboutisms in my response to you. I do see a whole lot of meaningless buzzword throwing abouts in yours, though. Typical of those who don’t actually have a solid argument.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 03-12-2022 at 10:03 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xrystofer View Post
    Are you aware of consumers' rights?
    I don’t see anything in there that says you are entitled to be able to have or get anything, nor that there is some requirement about supply and demand.

    When you agree to the ToS, you agree that you are paying for access to play the game; you have no rights to your character or items in the games. You are strictly paying for the ability to access the game.


    YOU ACQUIRE NO OWNERSHIP OR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN ANY CHARACTER OR OTHER IN-GAME VIRTUAL GOOD, AND ARE ONLY LICENSED TO USE SUCH CHARACTERS AND ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENTS. YOU AGREE THAT YOUR FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNT AND ANY VIRTUAL GOODS AND CHARACTERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MONETARY VALUE. SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.
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