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    I really hope SE will be open to the addition of mods one day, even a sanctioned list they adopt and feel is safe and decent to use

    There are very talented people out here in cyberspace regarding mods.

    Things we have been told are impossible.....are obviously not.

    From beautiful gear, unique customizations, vast improvements to UI options and countless qol changes.

    Fresh ideas, fresh sense of style and taste, choice!!, so much variety and preferences could be possible. This is what any game could benefit from.
    Please do consider in the future se, ♥
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    Things we have been told are impossible.....are obviously not.
    The existence of a third party mod that does something the XIV devs have said is impossible is not an indication that it would be possible for the XIV devs to implement. Third party developers do not have an obligation to ensure that all players can play the game with all optional features activated, on a minimum spec machine, within the memory and clock limitations of a minimum spec machine; nor do third party developers have an obligation to ensure that the features they implement do not break other features. The XIV devs do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The existence of a third party mod that does something the XIV devs have said is impossible is not an indication that it would be possible for the XIV devs to implement. Third party developers do not have an obligation to ensure that all players can play the game with all optional features activated, on a minimum spec machine, within the memory and clock limitations of a minimum spec machine; nor do third party developers have an obligation to ensure that the features they implement do not break other features. The XIV devs do.
    They really don't. They have no obligation to make sure the highest graphical settings run on the minimum specs as a quick and easy example. By simply saying: "Using mods are at user discretion and SE has no responsibility for any issues you may incur" is simple.

    You act like WoW and ESO don't already do this perfectly fine. So I'm unsure why SE would suddenly have a massive issue doing the literal exact same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    The existence of a third party mod that does something the XIV devs have said is impossible is not an indication that it would be possible for the XIV devs to implement. Third party developers do not have an obligation to ensure that all players can play the game with all optional features activated, on a minimum spec machine, within the memory and clock limitations of a minimum spec machine; nor do third party developers have an obligation to ensure that the features they implement do not break other features. The XIV devs do.
    Exactly. It's easy to say "but the modders can do it", but modders aren't held to the same standards and quality checks as the actual game devs. If a mod doesn't work on some hardware, or causes graphical issues with some items, or breaks with a new patch, or has any of the million other issues a mod can have, the modders can waive it with a simple "run this at your own risk." Meanwhile an official game feature with those same issues would never fly. That's why SE can't just easily add in all the things mods can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Exactly. It's easy to say "but the modders can do it", but modders aren't held to the same standards and quality checks as the actual game devs. If a mod doesn't work on some hardware, or causes graphical issues with some items, or breaks with a new patch, or has any of the million other issues a mod can have, the modders can waive it with a simple "run this at your own risk." Meanwhile an official game feature with those same issues would never fly. That's why SE can't just easily add in all the things mods can do.
    This is accurate and anyone who actively mods in this game/understands how modding works in general should be able to stand behind this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    Exactly. It's easy to say "but the modders can do it", but modders aren't held to the same standards and quality checks as the actual game devs. If a mod doesn't work on some hardware, or causes graphical issues with some items, or breaks with a new patch, or has any of the million other issues a mod can have, the modders can waive it with a simple "run this at your own risk." Meanwhile an official game feature with those same issues would never fly. That's why SE can't just easily add in all the things mods can do.
    That is true. But the reason behind is, nobody of the modders knows exactly how a mod must be made to work flawlessly. SQEX could make a contest for new hairstyles, clothes, faces etc. and tell the modders how to do that. There was already a weapon contest and SQEX offered a weapon template. The same thing could me made for other things. And the best ideas could be put directly into the game.

    The mods exist because the game itself has so poor character creation options.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    I really hope SE will be open to the addition of mods one day, even a sanctioned list they adopt and feel is safe and decent to use [/B]
    You have reminded me here of Skyrim's creation club. Which is a sanctioned list of officially supported mods.
    Would be lovely to have one here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    I really hope SE will be open to the addition of mods one day, even a sanctioned list they adopt and feel is safe and decent to use

    There are very talented people out here in cyberspace regarding mods.

    Things we have been told are impossible.....are obviously not.

    From beautiful gear, unique customizations, vast improvements to UI options and countless qol changes.

    Fresh ideas, fresh sense of style and taste, choice!!, so much variety and preferences could be possible. This is what any game could benefit from.
    Please do consider in the future se, ♥

    That's never going to happen, modding a game like FFXIV its different than installing mod in a single player/offline game. Plus SE sells outfits for 20 usd on their online store.

    "I want my weapon to look like those ones Ultimate, but instead of working for it, Ima just replace the textures since SE now allows it"

    99% of things I saw from the very talented people are explicit/adult mods turning FFXIV in to Second Life. Sometimes I couldn't recognize some screenshots because they even change races to the point that Mi'qotes now are wolves and Au Ra like hyurs.

    UI/Keybinds etc could be great but those are addons.
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