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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
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    Thanks for providing your quotes. My issue with this, with all of this is that what you just posted is what Venat thinks will happen. It is not objectively what would happen were people made aware of the truth. In the video, Yoshi-P says that everything happens because Venat believes they can't do better. That she believes they cannot stop it at the source. They don't need to go to UT and confront Meteion. We are told that the Ancients themselves are too aether-dense to interact with Dynamis and I accept that; but they are also gods who can create anything. If a Meteion entity can be created by one man then there is zero reason for me to believe, based on the evidence that I have seen in the game, that an entity could not be created that could counter Meteion. And in the meantime, they devise a way to create a shield to protect themselves in the short term. A shield that doesn't require you to sacrifice 50% of your population.

    It makes absolutely no sense for me to suddenly suspend my disbelief and accept that the Ancients are now randomly idiots who are incapable of intelligent decisions. Dynamis is not widely known about in their society but it is also not the sole knowledge of one man, had the wider world known of the issue there is no reason to believe that those who did know about it couldn't have tried to find a solution. All they needed to know is what we're told almost immediately upon meeting Hermes and Meteion. That Dynamis is weaker than aether. Not telling them because of Hermes is...so weak. What on earth could he possibly do at that point? With Emet-Selch's memories restored they wouldn't need his knowledge and Venat herself says at one point that she has heard of Dynamis before. Was he going to take on the entire Convocation? Stick him in Pandemonium if you're truly afraid he could be a danger and get on with protecting your world.

    Imagine the WoL learning all they do about Zodiark and Meteion and, instead of sharing that knowledge with the Alliance leaders they just lock themselves in the Rising Stones because they don't want to cause a panic. It's dumb, right?

    The writers have given us this official reasoning for her actions and inaction and I'm sure they thought that this was a solid resolution. But the reason I continue to question their story choices is that based on what they themselves have shown me in their story up until this point, it makes no sense whatsoever. This is only my opinion but at the end of the day, they are asking me to roll over and accept that this logically preventable event is now to be completely unpreventable just because of one person's subjective opinion. That there is no other way it could have been resolved. In this world where really, almost anything is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post

    Imagine the WoL learning all they do about Zodiark and Meteion and, instead of sharing that knowledge with the Alliance leaders they just lock themselves in the Rising Stones because they don't want to cause a panic. It's dumb, right?

    The writers have given us this official reasoning for her actions and inaction and I'm sure they thought that this was a solid resolution. But the reason I continue to question their story choices is that based on what they themselves have shown me in their story up until this point, it makes no sense whatsoever. This is only my opinion but at the end of the day, they are asking me to roll over and accept that this logically preventable event is now to be completely unpreventable just because of one person's subjective opinion. That there is no other way it could have been resolved. In this world where really, almost anything is possible.
    Very much this and the rest above. One thing though, I'm not entirely sure they themselves think it's that solid given how hard it was for Yoshida to answer and how cornered he felt during the LL..to the point of saying we shouldn't look at the story that much. That might just be how it appeared to me though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyohei View Post
    Very much this and the rest above. One thing though, I'm not entirely sure they themselves think it's that solid given how hard it was for Yoshida to answer and how cornered he felt during the LL..to the point of saying we shouldn't look at the story that much. That might just be how it appeared to me though.
    Yeah, I got that impression as well. I also wonder if they had some plan to wrap up any of these questions we have somehow with the raids in the interim patches but I admit I'm having to reach quite a bit to see how it could happen. I'm just baffled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PawPaw View Post
    Yeah, I got that impression as well. I also wonder if they had some plan to wrap up any of these questions we have somehow with the raids in the interim patches but I admit I'm having to reach quite a bit to see how it could happen. I'm just baffled.
    I'd like to give them benefice of doubt but it's very hard. The only thing hope from the raids now is down to "wish they'll voice Themis at least". No expectation of more of the story unravelled or questions answered, or inconsistencies patched up.
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