What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Caurcas]

Ah, so your problem is that the Ancients didn't suffer enough in death? Would it have been more acceptable if they had chosen to fling themselves into a pit of vicious monsters instead of choosing when and where they wished to pass on peacefully?

Weird take away, but no. My issue is them literally throwing away their lives prior to calamity, via self termination. Furthermore, the fact this irony that the Unsundered long so for their loved ones and the lives they had prior when they used to do this flies over so many people's head in these arguments is frustrating.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Weird take away, but no. My issue is them literally throwing away their lives prior to calamity, via self termination. Furthermore, the fact this irony that the Unsundered long so for their loved ones and the lives they had prior when they used to do this flies over so many people's head in these arguments is frustrating.

You act like they were killing themselves after a hundred or so years. They lived an incredibly long time. Barring that though what does any of that have to do with them longing for their loved ones. Being in Zodiark meant them being unable to reincarnate or pass on the right way, some l thing they held dear. Those two things don’t really correlate at all. The Ancients from how i read it, passed on when they saw they had nothing much more to offer and to give their position to someone that would help flourish the star more, where they then would turn to reincarnation and start anew.

Nowhere in the recent Q&A did Yoshi-P stated that Hyadaelyn/Venat consumed the souls completely till there was nothing left.
Here's the link to the worded Q&A if you dont believe me https://novacrystallis.com/2022/02/f...dmap-detailed/

Unless were talking about the initial summoning then probably yeah considering the nature of the summoning. But the point still stands that she wasnt going around consuming souls of the sundered shards. Otherwise there wouldnt be a lifestream and the recycling of sundered souls wouldnt have happened.

Also lets not forget what was actually asked in that interview:

Question- "Was Venat sundering the star truly the only way to save it?"
Answer - "Yoshida consulted with Ishikawa, and says as Y’shtola theorized that the Ancients were so dense in aether that they could not control dynamis. Other Ancients concluded that Zodiark was the solution to Meteion’s song of oblivion, but Venat concluded that they could not change as a people and would be their own undoing."

So ok looks like the Ancients or at least a good portion of them DID knew of Meteion and the song of oblivion....but the Convocation still chose to preserve their "perfect world" in a futile attempt to keep what they had. This is why I was asking you guys that question earlier.....if the sundering didnt happen and Zodiark was the only one there, what would've that seriously accomplished.

Anyway people here need to go back and look at that Q&A again because it seriously looks like a lot of folk are just overly reading into things.

Yes, i meant the initial summoning. She consumed their souls and effectively erased them, something not even Zodiark did.She wasnt going around consuming souls after that(unless you count minfilia) but neither was Zodiark so im curious where you're getting he would just continuously suck up souls.

As far as that quote goes, i think you're misinterpreting it. We know the convocation and the people who summoned Zodiark didnt know of Meteion afaik. It seems hes describing that from a narration point of view, using it to describe the situation.How was it a futile attempt exactly? Them doing that is what makes the world exist as it is today. As someone else said, Zodiark was shielding the world for 12,000 years and a lot of that was after being sundered. If Venat had told them the truth and they used that time to come up with a solution i think its very easy to surmise theyd had been able to find a way. I tjink a lot of folks arent reading enough tbh. It seems people neef to go and play through ShB and EW again because theres some very common misconceptions like Zodiark being a blood god that is very quickly disproven.