Sundering stuff established in the Q&A

[Kozh]

Sorry I took so long to reply. Got hit by "failed to confirm session key" after accidentally log out. Dumb forum.

And before it comes I already know the response will be “oh well that just makes up for everything.” But that’s not the point!

Uh that's one of the point when people's criticism of venat is how she's more of "the bigger picture" person. And do you really think the sundered isn't capable of looking away from the reality? Like how the 8UC timeline didn't? Or the general Eorzean/hydaelyn population who the game conveniently left out during final days? She deemed the whole sundered able to defeat despair when the sample population is just 8 people (with plot armor) plus, give or take, sharlayan people and some refugees.

I don’t think the Plenty is a caricature, nor do I think the way the 1st or 2nd worlds were shown to be removed from reality...

Ok meteion.

They literally do though, they want everything back the way it was. The people, the world, the lack of fear, all of it....

Still isn't the same as moving back in time to erase that reality of final days.

The difference is clear, and it’s why this example is unimaginably frustrating.

I assure you I have double the amount of frustration when you refuse to see how those two acts are basically the same, if not, worse. Whether or not it's for benefit of self or others, it doesn't matter because the main poin of this argument is if the sundered had the means to turn away from reality. I mean, if the third sacrifice is to sacrifice the surviving Ancients to bring back those who were gone, you probably still say that they turn away from despair right? On top of that, like I said before, what the Ironworks did do benefit them as a whole race and how they also willing to potentially sacrifice those who opposed their plan (or even unaware of).

Oh don’t Kozh, this is a bad attempt to turn your mocking around on me. What did I cherry pick exactly? Post the whole quote and we’ll pick it apart if you’re confident..

I mean, if you don't want people to mock you, then don't do that yourself in the first place?

And no thanks, there's no way I dig around your posts from weeks ago, they're scattered around different posts and even forums. But what you write here is one example. Apparently you are so ready to say "see, yoshi-p said the Plenty is what the Ancients gonna be!!!, but then when it comes to discussion about how venat do sundering with the rejoining in mind, you deny it vehemently. Even though Yoshida also said that" venat tried hard to keep the timeline in place" and "she deliberately spare emet selch". It doesn't take a genius to understand that those two actions means she needed him to do rejoining so the WoL would exist.