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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Fine, I'll bite: You see, there's this mystical object created by our bygone ancestors. Whispered and suspicious voices call them "Pants". But wait! It doesn't end there, as amazing as this tale already seems. You see, sometimes people can put things IN these pants, right? And when things are beneath the cloth of these """Pants""", they are invisible to outside viewers, despite still existing in a mind boggling pocket dimension known as "Inside Pants".
    There's something even older and more mystical than "pants", though: bones. Tails have them. They are unlikely to be comfortable in the realm of "Inside Pants".

    It's not just a piece of hanging cloth to be stuffed down your pants leg with no effect on either leg mobility or tail pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There's something even older and more mystical than "pants", though: bones. Tails have them. They are unlikely to be comfortable in the realm of "Inside Pants".

    It's not just a piece of hanging cloth to be stuffed down your pants leg with no effect on either leg mobility or tail pain.
    Really? Given the animations of the tails in this game, it sure could have fooled me.

    But sure. Let's make this the exception and ignore the fact that these metal contraptions called "helmets" crush thousands of Miqote and Viera ears daily and we don't bat an eye.

    This is insipid. I give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Okay, so you don't know how pants work or think that maybe, at most, knee-length flexible appendages can't go down a pantsleg because of their sheer crater-creating girth. You are effectively beyond help.

    I swear, for a community that plays in a fantasy realm, the occasional lack of creative thinking baffles me.
    And you are off to ignore land. If you can’t speak respectfully to others I don’t need to speak to you at all.

    Note I did not respond to the content of this post as there is nothing new or compelling to respond to.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 03-08-2022 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Really? Given the animations of the tails in this game, it sure could have fooled me.

    But sure. Let's make this the exception and ignore the fact that these metal contraptions called "helmets" crush thousands of Miqote and Viera ears daily and we don't bat an eye.

    This is insipid. I give up.
    You mean the helmets that are entirely invisible on Viera allegedly because of said ears?
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    You mean the helmets that are entirely invisible on Viera allegedly because of said ears?
    I mean, I just wanted to counter the argument that putting your tail in your pants was equitable to sawing off AuRa horns, but if you want to move the goalpost to the admitted graphical incompetence of the devs as of late, that's a Pandora's Box.

    Like seriously. This all started because people just want to hide their tails. Others say it's akin to descaling an AuRa or stretching a Lala which it is more verifiably not. And now we're focusing on feasibility to counter an option that wouldn't affect you people anyways.

    Is it selfishness or righteousness that drives you all? I don't know, but like I said previously, time to resist temptation and leave well enough alone. Not like the dev team actually listens to us anyways given last LL.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    Really? Given the animations of the tails in this game, it sure could have fooled me.

    But sure. Let's make this the exception and ignore the fact that these metal contraptions called "helmets" crush thousands of Miqote and Viera ears daily and we don't bat an eye.
    I don't know what you're looking at, but Miqo'te tails are in constant motion.

    And yes, I do bat an eye when helmets don't account for their ears. The number of badly-fitting headpieces is astounding – even when they exist, ear pockets rarely fit the actual size of ears – and I wish they would review every piece.


    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    I mean, I just wanted to counter the argument that putting your tail in your pants was equitable to sawing off AuRa horns
    Because you can't just put the tail inside the pants. It would look more akin to cutting it off.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't know what you're looking at, but Miqo'te tails are in constant motion.

    And yes, I do bat an eye when helmets don't account for their ears. The number of badly-fitting headpieces is astounding – even when they exist, ear pockets rarely fit the actual size of ears – and I wish they would review every piece.off.
    I’m only slightly more forgiving with ears because they are a bit flexible but the ear spaces should generally fit.

    I know as a human I have worn caps and even soldier helmets that don’t have special spaces for human ears and kind of pushes them against your head, so it’s not 100 percent unrealistic to have some squishing there. I know some people also terrorize their cats with beanie caps that dont have ears cut out and cats can furrow their ears to a large extent. (Viera probably need ample space though if their ears aren’t floppy). I do wish more effort were placed here in general though.
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    I would prefer that armor and clothing be adjusted to accommodate tails. Just as I am proud of my horns, I am also proud of my tail. To think that people would be fine with bobbing an Au Ra...SHUDDER! Iscah is correct. Tails HAVE BONES. The thought of having to cram my tail inside a pant leg is just, nope, not going there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I’m only slightly more forgiving with ears because they are a bit flexible but the ear spaces should generally fit.
    A bit of squishing would be fine, yeah.

    My real problem (besides close-fitting hats with no accommodation whatsoever) is when they do add "ear socks" to hats but they're like a third of the size of the ears and possibly in the wrong position. It just looks silly, and uncomfortable if they are indeed getting their ears in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    A bit of squishing would be fine, yeah.

    My real problem (besides close-fitting hats with no accommodation whatsoever) is when they do add "ear socks" to hats but they're like a third of the size of the ears and possibly in the wrong position. It just looks silly, and uncomfortable if they are indeed getting their ears in there.
    For sure! I want to feel like our characters are wearing things they would actually wear and are designed for the comfort and protection of the race using it.
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