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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I mean, the original post was to laugh at the fact that someone said that SE is slowing down for polish while those that have been here for a while have seen less and less polish in the game while at the same time we are getting less and less content per patch. Also, that live letter where they wheeled out the big chart to show how much the game has grown was funny. Half of the list was "more dialogue and story", i'm sorry but bragging about a lot of words in a video game is the equivalent of a high school paper that is double spaced and full of padding. Sure, it's a lot of paper but you only have around 7-9 sentences per paper. Some say we are getting quality over quantity but I say we are getting neither.
    They can slow down for whatever reason they wish, to be frank. As it stands this expansion stands to release the most variety in content. Whether said content actually meets the bar of what players would deem interesting is an entirely different argument. They've had many failed attempts at trying to push content in the past. E.g. Diadem in HW. I don't even want to know how much time and resources they've wasted just trying to force it onto people.

    Equally, bragging about the number of dungeons is just as much of a vein effort. Beyond the 1-time experience people encounter with them people then only really grow to treat them as a means to an end for players getting their weekly tome cap for gear upgrades. Given the other areas of content we've seen such as DR/DRS, Dalriada, and Castrum Lacus Litore, Ocean Fishing and Ishgard Restoration, I find it a fairly good trade-off. Depends entirely on the scope of what you actually deem content and what you do not.

    The issue with this game isn't really the amount of content have (nor the quality of it, personally - But that's subjective). It's just the simple fact that they've elected to take a route of designing content which for many intents and purposes could be deemed as one off experiences with very little replay value, and the key here is the replay value. There's very little point in them just going far and wide with their content if they cannot nail that down, at the very least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    They can slow down for whatever reason they wish, to be frank.
    And as someone who is giving them money for a product I can point out obvious faults, to be frank. At the end of the day, it's their ball so they can do whatever they want with it. People also don't like to play with those that don't listen, ask WoW next door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    And as someone who is giving them money for a product I can point out obvious faults, to be frank. At the end of the day, it's their ball so they can do whatever they want with it. People also don't like to play with those that don't listen, ask WoW next door.
    You would realistically have a point if the end result gap was actually greater than 2 weeks, but at this point it's arguing for the sake of arguing. Their content release cycle has already been between 112-119 days which puts it just 1-2 weeks behind what their newly announced schedule actually is. That just making a mountain out of a molehill. But hey, that's your prerogative.

    If it's going to be something where they elect to take liberties with more and more time, then sure. But as it stands a 2 weeks extension to their schedule is perfectly reasonable. Regardless of your own personal feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You would realistically have a point if the end result gap was actually greater than 2 week
    You DO realize that the 2 week thing was just another bullet point on a growing list of how SE is slowing down content for a game that is earning SE record numbers, right? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You DO realize that the 2 week thing was just another bullet point on a growing list of how SE is slowing down content for a game that is earning SE record numbers, right? lol
    Like I said, and that depends entirely on what you would actually deem as content. Over the most recent years they've been more varied in content comparative to ARR. The only unfortunate trade-off thus far has been that some of the content is just a 1-off experience. So personally, I would beg to differ.

    You do equally realise that Quality of Life changes that the game has undergone require a considerable amount of planning and development resources too, right? Lol. Many of them actually making it considerably easier for people to get into the game without quitting immediately.

    But as I've said, they understand, as do I that this game is not the only one on the market. So personally I can appreciate it given the freedom I have to play whatever else I wish without essentially feeling enslaved by the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You do equally realise that Quality of Life changes that the game has undergone require a considerable amount of planning and development resources too, right? Lol. Many of them actually making it considerably easier for people to get into the game without quitting immediately.
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
    Way to misconstrue the argument. I just stated that QoL consumes a considerable amount of resources. Besides small indie company or multi-billion dollar company or not. Finding talent is not an easy a task as you'd like to believe, or anyone for that matter. But hey, I heard they were hiring and have even gone as far as to advertise this on their PLL, several times. So by all means apply.

    Yes it would be. But the issues people take with the game as not homogenous. Many people here seem to have issue with the amount of content. By comparison I don't. I just take an issue with the replay value behind some of their more recently released content. But on the other hand, I've seen first-hand what this looks like under their current philosophy with Ishgard Restoration.. Hurrah for unreasonable grinds.

    I think this game is a long shot from a slow and painful death. But that would be your own personal opinion, as it would be with mine. It's impossible to please everyone, equally, it's impossible to please people who digest content far quicker than what it can be developed. Finding a middle-ground between players that have the luxury of being able to play 6 hours daily, and those that can play weekends for perhaps 3-4 hours is difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You're right, SE is a small company with limited resources. Please understand, lol. I like this game a lot and it would be pretty sad to see it die just like WoW; a slow, painful death while everyone claps.
    Square Enix is a moderately sized entertainment company with multiple divisions and annual budgets for each. It does not revolve solely around the Final Fantasy XIV franchise, and funds from every division are put to work where the company decides, not where the division Producers necessarily would like. From a budgetary standpoint, their online and mobile games make 2-3 times as much in revenue in any given year than the entire MMO division. Where would you, as a responsible corporate officer, put the funds for future growth?

    I do so despise the flippant word salad that posters decide makes them points. "SE is a small company" earns zero points. It hasn't been an original point in almost a decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You DO realize that the 2 week thing was just another bullet point on a growing list of how SE is slowing down content for a game that is earning SE record numbers, right? lol
    You do realize SE doesn't plow 100% of that money back into FF14, right? lol
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