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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Compared to other MMO's and their content droughts? FFXIV seems to be the more consistent with its patch releases that justify a sub (which is needed to keep an online game going without resorting to numerous amounts of micro-transactions and pay 2 win models). So its not laughable for people to sub and unsub when they know content will be coming anyway. Also maybe I'm one of the few that does this but...I dont play this game every day. In fact I go a week or 2 without playing to do something else to avoid burnout, but I still keep my sub going for the off chance I want to play the game. I figure this is how others usually play MMOs without making it their 2nd job.
    I only play this game for a few months a year. I keep my sub going for the forums, and the house I got nowadays. However, I do not stop playing the game for so long because I want to - most of the time (I did get burn out last year from the relic grind) - but because I simply have nothing I want to do. I probably take more breaks from this game than many people here, funnily enough.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 03-02-2022 at 08:35 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    What's the purpose in the sub then? When a game has a sub, it is presumed that content gets released at more frequent periods (or there is something to do) to justify the sub. The "just unsub" argument I have always thought was laughable.
    The sub's purpose is the same as any other sub in business - access to the content they are presently offering in exchange for the sub. You are not promised new content at any specific pace unless that is part of the sub deal like for magazines. This isn't just for games - but for anything. Like when I'm done with the content I'm interested on Netflix or any of the other 200 streaming services that have come out, I simply unsub until it has enough content for me to want to sub again. I don't go onto the internet to demand they make new shows faster.

    New content is expected if a business wants to keep a sub - else people will unsub. FFXIV already said they are fine losing your sub if you are done with the content until you want to play again. That's the whole point of "just unsub."

    What I find laughable is trying to demand things at your pace as the customer as opposed to what they are offering as the business. You are free to unsub, but for some reason people would rather not, and complain instead.

    FFXIV has shared with it's customers it's present schedule for offering new content. If it's not enough... just unsub. That easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    FFXIV already said they are fine losing your sub if you are done with the content until you want to play again. That's the whole point of "just unsub."
    They can say what they want, but I seriously doubt that statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They can say what they want, but I seriously doubt that statement.
    They said it and they mean it. It's really bizarre that you think there is a conspiracy that FFXIV doesn't think people should unsub and prefers that you remain subbed unhappily so you can complain on the forums.

    But since you said the forums are part of the reason you sub, then you are still getting value I guess. Given you have posted over 5000 times, a lot of value lol.
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    Super easy if you play casually. I /hope/ they use that time to A. develop more complex and diverse features rather than feeling compelled to pump the machine as hard as possible with no time to breath and on that B. perhaps figure out how to avoid the unfortunately classic thing called crunch (which is a bigger problem than players ask for too much, that's something corporate needs to work on too). I do feel a sense of A (island sanctuary for example, and of course our graphic updates), and I'm sure Covid coming in as C doesn't help (though I do hope those impacts are going to be lessened). As for B. just a prayer, like how seeing whats going down with blizzard... employees should be treated well too.

    People might make arguments of wealth and so they should be able to reinvest more but I just don't want to attempt an argument based on that, I feel accounting arguments are doomed to have no value (for or against ideas, I don't care to hear how expensive someone thinks a thing will be, neither do I care to hear how much more they should be spending in money- my imo).
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    Just here to answer your question.

    I play for a little bit, then take some breaks. Go on a walk-it's finally stopped raining so it's been nice to see the sun out and hear the birds. Go to the local market, look for some fresh fruits which is a rare success because I swear everyone runs up and snatches them all as soon as the doors open. Clean up around the house a little more. Do some mopping, vacuuming, counter cleaning..switch all the bedding because spring is almost here! Scrubbed the bathroom down nice and good just yesterday. Also tried out an outdoors flea remover so my cats can sit in the back patio without any worries about an hour ago. Will probably going to wash my car windshield now. Maybe tomorrow I'll log into XIV again! Play for a little bit, then go wash my whole car. Trim the lawn, go for a run. This is all because I play likely a normal healthy amount. The whole day doesnt have to be absorbed by XIV. There are many many things to do with ones time. I'm actually greatful that XIV is this easy going. I've played MMO's for years and usually they try to leech every hour of my time they can. But not this one! This one lets me play it and then go tend to my real life just fine. I'm never behind, I'm never rushing. I'm never stressing about how 'oh i should be farming this dungeon running it 300 times for this one thing or else I cant do xyz' I can just do a little bit, and then go make my real life just as pretty as my game life is. So this is how I am fine with however long it takes for new patches. It gives a healthy downtime. I always come into a new patch fresh faced and ready to sit down for hours and hours. and when I'm done, I get to go back to a more responsible balance without fear of that costing me anything. If the money feels like it's being wasted, I simply unsub until it's time to resub again! Because unsubbing doesnt put me behind either! Hope this helps.
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    I am struggling to understand why people keep taking the bait on everyone one of these threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy View Post
    I am struggling to understand why people keep taking the bait on everyone one of these threads.
    this to be honest
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    I'm still playing the main MSQ, because I have a full time job and only play about an hour or so a day. I probably won't even finish 6.0 by the time 6.1 comes out. No complaints here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I'm still playing the main MSQ, because I have a full time job and only play about an hour or so a day. I probably won't even finish 6.0 by the time 6.1 comes out. No complaints here.
    Friggin THIS! Like ok, Im still here trying to get some wanted relics, finish Eureka, grind my jobs and I dont necessarily have the time to play this game everyday 24/7

    Good for the people who managed to consume all the current content and finished all their other grinds, but for the majority of us that take our time due to legit reasons, Im all for the current endgame content sparse in FFXIV.
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