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  1. #511
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixon View Post
    Not to mention jobs are designed to be played in a certain way. However, Yoshi-P himself has stated many times that they will never be as smart as their players, which isn't a bad thing, it's just a fact. However many hundred of devs is nothing compared to the millions that play the game, and there is a good chance the player will find a way to play the job better than the devs ever intended.
    Just to chip in a small addition to this point here.

    It's important to remember that they have 5 or 6 battle system designers total depending on how much Sato's role leads towards production management now.

    If SE had hundreds of devs (Or even a consistent testing team of that scale with experience and skill comparable to a prog raiding static) then I don't think they would be making the significant oversights and mistakes that are pretty much a given with each expansion release. This pattern of releasing a few jobs in a state somewhere between non competitive and barely functional and then having to spend the next 6 months worth of patches simply fixing them is both predictable and a huge waste of their time.

    As of right now I assume they have a similar setup to what I had at EA/Bullfrog with a large shared pool of testers and a system that simply dishes out tickets and assignments randomly as testers become available. This is backed up by how Yoshida talked about the difficulties and compromises the testing team had to make back in HW and Gordias (which in turn resulted in infamously wonky DPS checks). That's fine for a standalone single player style game or a multiplayer game that has more in common with it's peers. But FFXIV's end game is quite different to the competition and it takes time to adjust.
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

  2. #512
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    This pattern of releasing a few jobs in a state somewhere between non competitive and barely functional and then having to spend the next 6 months worth of patches simply fixing them is both predictable and a huge waste of their time.
    I can't stress enough how important this specific statement is. A lot of problems with jobs are almost always identified immediately when new changes are presented, but only very few of these issues are addressed while others are ignored or procrastinated on for a later patch. They waste a lot of development time fixing their own easily preventable design problems, most of which can be avoided had they stopped being so selective in their feedback.
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  3. #513
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    Drake Drakon
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BrokentoothMarch View Post
    I envy most people in this thread. What a carefree life one must live to be able to fill the social void with some weird and schizophrenic parasocial relationship with a company that couldn't care less if you died tomorrow. To grant such importance to it that you'd spend hours defending what would be stated as objective design shortcomings in quite literally any other game.

    The community is so casualized and viciously "positively" toxic that reasoning with it has become impossible. And now the dev team take advantage of that to show flippant remarks and what would be reviled arrogance, again, in any other scenario. This is why I don't play in DF anymore. This is why I'm struggling to find a reason to do anything except play BLU and pretend Yoshi didn't take a fat steaming one over one of my favorite classes in the series with a laughable excuse that this community took on the chin. Yes. FFXI, a game from two decades ago, simply had access to alien technology that allowed that job to be born and allowed other jobs to maintain an engagement and identity that didn't hinge off the holy role trinity that is so heavily enforced because Yoshi's imagination is limited to whatever WoW thought up.

    Healers have been told to take a hike. The past year or so tanks have been realizing we've been suffering a similar homogenization. But it's okay because daddy Yoshi knows what he's doing and as long as a new DPS class is released every expansion, there is naught to complain about.

    I don't know who you people are, but you aren't the community that was around when HW released. I don't know where they went, but I'm probably going to end up unsubbing someday soon and following suit if both the game and it's community will so willfully decay like this.

    /Rant
    Hear hear!
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  4. #514
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    ASkellington's Avatar
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    That's All.

    No really:

    I could say day, and you'd say night
    Tell me it's black when I know that it's white
    Always the same, it's just a shame, that's all
    I could leave but I won't go
    Though my heart might tell me so
    I can't feel a thing from my head down to my toes
    But why does it always seem to be
    Me looking at you, you looking at me
    It's always the same, it's just a shame, that's all
    Turning me on, turning me off,
    Making me feel like I want too much
    Living with you's just putting me through it all of the time

    - Genesis

    Pandora likes to mess with me.
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  5. #515
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    I’d like to think that WHM will at least get some nerfs on cost of MP and maybe at least some mp buffs to assize and thin air. The changes you mentioned seemed to be widespread thing that most were wanting but… who knows… it might be too much copingway vibes trying to make me believe they will do major changes lol.
    I don't expect anything major, just highlighting possible adjustments that are easy to do.
    Buffing Assize and Misery's potency both help to address MP and Damage on WHM so are likely to happen. Anything beyond that is extra
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  6. #516
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I'm pretty sure the engaging content is sitting outside a housing plot trying to win a house against bots and other players
    Or decorating your house while trying to get the look you want but there is an item limit cap so you scream into the void
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  7. #517
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I'm pretty sure the engaging content is sitting outside a housing plot trying to win a house against bots and other players
    Or decorating your house while trying to get the look you want but there is an item limit cap so you scream into the void
    Fighting against the house decorating system's limitation and glitches is the true Ultimate fight in XIV. >w>
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  8. #518
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    MintnHoney's Avatar
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    Out of curiosity, what does everyone think the adjustments will be for healers based on the live letter?
    If nothing else, we might see more excitement in PvP. I'm cautiously optimistic about their mention of adrenaline rushes for each job (wouldn't that be a hoot?), but this is where my hope lies for actual gameplay for healers, sadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Fighting against the house decorating system's limitation and glitches is the true Ultimate fight in XIV. >w>
    It's true; house decorating is where my AST shines most, these days. So much complexity, so many decisions, the tiny little tweaks to get everything just right...
    It's so freeing.
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  9. #519
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    Archie Heios
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    Sagittarius
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    Sage Lv 90
    With how the question in the QnA was reformulated, I now ponder if SE as a whole is aware of the situation but dont want to address or Yoshi P have the wrong idea about the complaints for the way the team communicates to him the issue.

    Do we know if we still the lack of a main healer in the combat Dev team?
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  10. #520
    Player BrokentoothMarch's Avatar
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    Niku Yuku
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aarchie View Post
    With how the question in the QnA was reformulated, I now ponder if SE as a whole is aware of the situation but dont want to address or Yoshi P have the wrong idea about the complaints for the way the team communicates to him the issue.

    Do we know if we still the lack of a main healer in the combat Dev team?
    Aye. None of them heal.
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