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  1. #21
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    Rhysati's Avatar
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    I've been playing since ARR and have countless thousands of dungeon runs across 8 different characters. I have never seen this. Not once. I don't think this is even worth the time for the devs to put in the effort to fix it because it isn't an actual problem.

    If they do fix it, okay great. But if you had asked me if it was even possible I would have guessed no.
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  2. #22
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    StriderShinryu's Avatar
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    Alexalea Snowsong
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    I've been playing since ARR and have countless thousands of dungeon runs across 8 different characters. I have never seen this. Not once. I don't think this is even worth the time for the devs to put in the effort to fix it because it isn't an actual problem.

    If they do fix it, okay great. But if you had asked me if it was even possible I would have guessed no.
    Yeah, the only time I've seen it is in borderline content like within a few levels of 30. Not saying it doesn't happen but, like a lot of the behaviour/issues that get complained about here on the forums, it really doesn't happen anywhere near as often as some people claim it does.
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  3. #23
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    I agree. The moment someone's eligible to use a job crystal, it should be required in dungeons and auto-equipped. If they don't have it, they'll be ineligible to queue until they do.

    Who knows, maybe this will cut down on bots too?
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  4. #24
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    SeverianLyonesse's Avatar
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Job crystals should just be removed altogether. They are a waste of inventory space and overcomplicate gear/job swaps.

    They can still exist in the lore and be "autoequipped" per job, but keeping them as an item is quite dumb to me.
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  5. #25
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    Another one of these threads again. Class-only things were fun back in HW, when the cross-class system existed, things like A12 Savage was cleared with no job stones and no echo. But since that was pulled out, no one really does anything anymore. Neutering the cross-class system and making role-only skills was really the final nail in the coffin they had to do.

    It would cost a lot of resources to remove the class-system completely from the game. It's not just about your measly job stones, it would be rewriting a lot of ARR system and quests. None of this amounts to being worth the time and effort compared to say graphics and UI updates. Basically they made a way forward that all new jobs don't have class skills, and no cross-class, only role skills.
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  6. #26
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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Is this a normal occurance though? I've been playing for years now and I've - never - seen anyone being a class instead of a job outside of being sprouts in an early dungeon.

    TBH it's pretty minor, but I'm more bothered by the lack of a defined purpose for Classes nowadays, it being only relevant for a tiny fraction of the game. They lost their purpose as soon as SB came in with role action consolidation.
    normal or not it should still be adressed. its not like flaws should be kept because theyre uncommon.
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  7. #27
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Coeurl
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Just do away with job crystals. It's obvious that the devs want to simplify classes to such a degree some become overly simplified, why allow a pitfall like job crystals to get in the way?
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  8. #28
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    Lihtleita Lonstyrmwyn
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    Lich
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Just do away with job crystals. It's obvious that the devs want to simplify classes to such a degree some become overly simplified, why allow a pitfall like job crystals to get in the way?
    ok. what do we do about arcanist?
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  9. #29
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Lihtleita View Post
    ok. what do we do about arcanist?
    Shhh, it doesn't fit their bad narrative.
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  10. #30
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    Sieglinde Hresvelg
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    Jenova
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    Red Mage Lv 83
    Job crystals are forever, I don't think they are going to get reworked it would be to messy. People are just going to have to be inconvenienced that some players might run dungeons without or forget to equip them, mentors could make note to tell sprouts about it and inform them once in awhile. It would be nice if they added a more of a quality of life instructions toward the importance of obtaining your Job crystal.
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