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  1. #201
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    Hopefully they're ignored as he already answered them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    The ironic thing... Most of those here complaining about what Yoshi-P said also refuse to play Savage and Ultimate.
    Because not everyone is up to that level yet. Does that mean their jobs shouldn't be engaging or fun on a daily basis if they play healers?
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #203
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    If they aren't up to that level then I don't see why they have any say on difficulty then.

    Clear the hardest stuff then they'll have some actual merit.

    Clearing only the easiest content then complaining about it being easy? C'mon now.

    The game also has multiple jobs. Not every job will be engaging as others as they play different roles and functions. The game has a lot jobs as well.

    I for one enjoy a job from every role. So I would say that they succeeded there.
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  4. #204
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    Welp! DRK are already asking about updates, along with healers, housing enthusiasts, viera and hroth players. A bit of sanctuary is in there as well. He can keep ignoring or watch more players get frustrated over things they’ve been asking about for awhile now.

    And no, healers shouldn’t be forced to do content that we don’t want to do. Meanwhile, no other role is forced to do this. Endgame is not the only content in this game, far from it. Could’ve sworn there’s an entire MSQ that we all have to go through to even get there. So get ready for more of the same questions to be asked
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    If they aren't up to that level then I don't see why they have any say on difficulty then.

    Clear the hardest stuff then they'll have some actual merit.

    Clearing only the easiest content then complaining about it being easy? C'mon now.

    The game also has multiple jobs. Not every job will be engaging as others as they play different roles and functions. The game has a lot jobs as well.

    I for one enjoy a job from every role. So I would say that they succeeded there.
    You must be blessed with immunity to car crashes because your skull has to be unusually thick.

    People have repeatedly stated that they're not complaining about difficulty, but engagement.

    Also I've cleared all Ultimates, and I clear Savages week 1. Do you want to try to dismiss my opinion too? Oh wait, but then you'll say something like "if you want to play a hardcore game FF14 is not it".

    So really, you can't win with stupid arguments like these!
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  6. #206
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    Welp! DRK are already asking about updates, along with healers, housing enthusiasts, viera and hroth players. A bit of sanctuary is in there as well. He can keep ignoring or watch more players get frustrated over things they’ve been asking about for awhile now.

    And no, healers shouldn’t be forced to do content that we don’t want to do. Meanwhile, no other role is forced to do this. Endgame is not the only content in this game, far from it. Could’ve sworn there’s an entire MSQ that we all have to go through to even get there. So get ready for more of the same questions to be asked
    Dark Knight has been asking for updates since Stormblood. That's a dead horse beaten to death. It's why I just dropped Dark Knight after getting it to 80.

    Healers that choose to just heal are the ones limiting themselves and can only blame themselves. They know what the Healer role is about and it will never get huge, drastic changes to bring it anywhere close to how a DPS functions. Which is what it seems like certain Healers want. An oddity as that's not what the Healer role is.

    Furthermore, if you cannot find even one job for reach role that is entertaining then that may be a you problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiros View Post
    You must be blessed with immunity to car crashes because your skull has to be unusually thick.

    People have repeatedly stated that they're not complaining about difficulty, but engagement.

    Also I've cleared all Ultimates, and I clear Savages week 1. Do you want to try to dismiss my opinion too? Oh wait, but then you'll say something like "if you want to play a hardcore game FF14 is not it".

    So really, you can't win with stupid arguments like these!
    Try again. This time without throwing insults - then I'll bother reading the rest of your post.
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    Last edited by Tanis_Ebonhart; 02-21-2022 at 10:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Try again. This time without throwing insults - then I'll bother reading the rest of your post.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    The ironic thing... Most of those here complaining about what Yoshi-P said also refuse to play Savage and Ultimate.
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    Well, it seems that not everyone is cut out for Tanking. I hope that you're able to find a DPS job that will better accommodate your playstyle.
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    Tell me about it when you find one. Though you may want to work on it a bit more as you just aren't there yet when it comes to this tanking thing.
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    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
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    Next time you should do research instead of trying to flirt with other users.
    Hmm, I wonder...
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    Last edited by Skiros; 02-21-2022 at 10:51 PM.

  8. #208
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    Ah so you’re just here to start arguments, eh? I mean I guess it’s cute and all with the forums being the way they are but your bored and tired arguments will not change my thoughts. I know they can create better healers. SCH and AST were my two favorite jobs until Shadowbringers. AST is busy and I love that but it’s practically busy for nothing. I like the timed skills we have but it’s not enough. SCH is just… they just did us wrong with those changes. So I will keep leaving likes on comments that are pushing for changes and even occasionally keep commenting myself. You’re more than welcome to help keep this thread on the first page, though.
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  9. #209
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    Your point? Stating a fact isn't the same as personally insulting someone else. Not a hard concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    Ah so you’re just here to start arguments, eh? I mean I guess it’s cute and all with the forums being the way they are but your bored and tired arguments will not change my thoughts. I know they can create better healers. SCH and AST were my two favorite jobs until Shadowbringers. AST is busy and I love that but it’s practically busy for nothing. I like the timed skills we have but it’s not enough. SCH is just… they just did us wrong with those changes. So I will keep leaving likes on comments that are pushing for changes and even occasionally keep commenting myself. You’re more than welcome to help keep this thread on the first page, though.
    The fact that many more players are playing and enjoying SCH (and using it in harder content) currently based off all Data compared to past expansions lends to the point that you're misinformed.

    It's a good thing Likes on the Forum mean literally nothing. We don't need a few Forum users trying to dictate unfun playstyles upon the majority who play the game.

    Though I will note that your crusade will end with no satisfaction. Yoshi-P and his team already know how they want the Healer role to function - and it isn't the vision you want. You can either accept it or move on as these changes have been happening since Heavensward.


    Next time you should do research instead of trying to flirt with other users.
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    Last edited by Tanis_Ebonhart; 02-21-2022 at 10:54 PM.

  10. #210
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Your point? Stating a fact isn't the same as personally insulting someone else. Not a hard concept.



    The fact that many more players are playing and enjoying SCH currently based off all Data compared to past expansions lends to the point that you're misinformed.

    Next time you should do research instead of trying to flirt with other users.

    It's a good thing Likes on the Forum mean literally nothing. We don't need a few Forum users trying to dictate unfun playstyles upon the majority who play the game.
    You are so funny man. I love you!
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