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    Quote Originally Posted by Gullis View Post
    As a tank i dont care who pulls, I just want the duty done.

    Only exeption is if someone is in a cutscene
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
    What are the follower and leader roles? I don't think those are in Final Fantasy 14...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
    Me tank! Me big leader! Me lead!! Me no follow! Me no sheep! You listen! Me leader!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
    Leadership comes through competence, buddy. Not which color your role has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
    Oof, that's a bad take right there. A tanks job is not to lead the party, it's to maintain aggro and threat so the party is safe from direct attacks from enemies and mobs. Get the main character syndrome out of your head. Tanks don't lead or set the pace, the party does. If the tank is not dying, the mobs are dying fast cause the DPS are competent and the healer can keep up, then you can at least try to wall to wall, because why not? It's just waiting time at that point if you do not. I repeat, tanks do not set the pace, that's an egoist mindset. Neither do healers or DPS. It's a party thing. As a tank your job is to maintain aggro and threat so your party does not get mauled to death by mobs. A healers job is to heal unavoidable damage on the tank and keep them and the DPS alive (and take care of dps that step in red/get hit with unavoidable damage) and a DPS's job is to play their job competently and kill packs/mobs/bosses as fast and effectively as they can to help the healer and tank use less recourses to survive the encounter. That's it. No role ever states anything about being a 'leader' or a 'follower' and as I mentioned before that's a self-centred and egoist mindset to have. If others have aggro, and you are a tank, do your role and take threat and aggro off them. If the party wipes, it simply means you can't do it, and if you survive, great, everything is fine. Pulling ahead constantly even when you ask not to is shitty behaviour, but so is pulling a 'I refuse to heal you' or saying 'You pull you tank'. One does not excuse nor allow the other.
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    Last edited by Aurora_Sylphy; 02-18-2022 at 09:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora_Sylphy View Post
    Oof, that's a bad take right there. A tanks job is not to lead the party, it's to maintain aggro and threat so the party is safe from direct attacks from enemies and mobs. Get the main character syndrome out of your head. Tanks don't lead or set the pace, the party does. If the tank is not dying, the mobs are dying fast cause the DPS are competent and the healer can keep up, then you can at least try to wall to wall, because why not? It's just waiting time at that point if you do not. I repeat, tanks do not set the pace, that's an egoist mindset. Neither do healers or DPS. It's a party thing. As a tank your job is to maintain aggro and threat so your party does not get mauled to death by mobs. A healers job is to heal unavoidable damage on the tank and keep them and the DPS alive (and take care of dps that step in red/get hit with unavoidable damage) and a DPS's job is to play their job competently and kill packs/mobs/bosses as fast and effectively as they can to help the healer and tank use less recourses to survive the encounter. That's it. No role ever states anything about being a 'leader' or a 'follower' and as I mentioned before that's a self-centred and egoist mindset to have. If others have aggro, and you are a tank, do your role and take threat and aggro off them. If the party wipes, it simply means you can't do it, and if you survive, great, everything is fine. Pulling ahead constantly even when you ask not to is shitty behaviour, but so is pulling a 'I refuse to heal you' or saying 'You pull you tank'. One does not excuse nor allow the other.
    A Tank is the Leader.

    Not the DPS and definitely not the Healer.

    A party where anyone but the Tank sets the pace has always ended up by being far more effort than it needed to be.

    Worse are the parties where the Tank lets themselves be bullied.
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    Last edited by Tanis_Ebonhart; 02-18-2022 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    A Tank is the Leader.

    Not the DPS and definitely not the Healer.

    A party where anyone but the Tank sets the pace has always ended up by being far more effort than it needed to be.

    Worse are the parties where the Tank lets themselves be bullied.
    Funny way to say meatshield. Did you know that tanks arent required at all to clear dungeons? It's a painful slog but it can definitely be done without them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    A Tank is the Leader.

    Not the DPS and definitely not the Healer.

    A party where anyone but the Tank sets the pace has always ended up by being far more effort than it needed to be.

    Worse are the parties where the Tank lets themselves be bullied.
    godspeed, you tanks who bravely "lead" three other people down linear corridors. where would your groups be without your leadership skills?
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    One time, a Machinist tanked the entirety of The Twinning because of this mentality. Was pretty fun, actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Ah, so you're a follower and not a leader.

    I suggest a different job role then.
    Thats not what I said. Just that, if some dps wants to Rambo and use all of their mobility to pull a pack seconds before I do, ill just take them and move on, Not start drama, with people I probably will never see again.

    Suggestion denied.
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    Last edited by Gullis; 02-19-2022 at 12:09 AM.