"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Padudu]

Nah instead just report the DPS for aiding the enemy/griefing and call it good. Literally same selfish mentality as YPYT.

Lmao I'm pretty sure most DPS pull with the intention of doing more damage and getting a move on unlike YPYT where your small soyboy energy is just intentionally letting people die because you can't handle not being the leader for 5 minutes

[Ath192]

Lmao I'm pretty sure most DPS pull with the intention of doing more damage and getting a move on unlike YPYT where your small soyboy energy is just intentionally letting people die because you can't handle not being the leader for 5 minutes

Sorry but starting anything with "I'm pretty sure" is nothing but bias here. Just like "I'm pretty sure" that some DPS are completely selfish rude people that will pull ahead because they want to get out asap and bully the tank into scrambling to grab aggro. And if he dares to fail they'll shame him nonstop. Those aren't good people sorry to burst the bubble.

[Padudu]

Sorry but starting anything with "I'm pretty sure" is nothing but bias here. Just like "I'm pretty sure" that some DPS are completely selfish rude people that will pull ahead because they want to get out asap and bully the tank into scrambling to grab aggro. And if he dares to fail they'll shame him nonstop. Those aren't good people sorry to burst the bubble.

LMAO implying you're speaking objectively at all

Dude I don't main DPS I just use common sense and my own experience with most dpses that pull ahead of me. I've never felt like bullied by a DPS to go forward lmfao and hey in general most people are actually alright when you don't antagonize them the moment you que with them into a dungeon tbh fam

[Ath192]

LMAO implying you're speaking objectively at all

Dude I don't main DPS I just use common sense and my own experience with most dpses that pull ahead of me. I've never felt like bullied by a DPS to go forward lmfao and hey in general most people are actually alright when you don't antagonize them the moment you que with them into a dungeon tbh fam

I'm not, nor did I ever claim I was, there's a reason I quoted specific phrases in my response, but I see you had trouble understanding them.

Personally I've seen both. A benign pull ahead and a this is gonna be the way it is pull ahead, with shaming following afterwards.

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Getting that out of the way, if we use logic and common sense:
1. The Tank has both a ranged attack and an AOE attack that can be paired with their enmity generation skill
2. The Tank has the best defense and cool downs to deal with mobs
3. The DPS have poor tools equipped to deal with the monsters they pull

So in any given situation the person that commits the first offense will always be the DPS, since they are doing something out of the ordinary, pulling for the tank.

The tank can react in two ways:
1. Be offended about it and put up an attitude
2. Be the bigger person and chug along

Now, noone likes a tank with a bad attitude, this is true. However, the actual culprit, or instigator of the situation is the DPS. So they are not off the hook for causing a situation that didn't need to happen to begin with. It is not acceptable behavior and at best people dont care because they are chill.

But I certainly haven't met any tank or group for that matter in my life that goes in to the dungeon "hoping" the DPS pulls for them. The best case scenario is noone cares.

[Padudu]

I'm not, nor did I ever claim I was, there's a reason I quoted specific phrases in my response, but I see you had trouble understanding them.

I understood it just fine lmao my point is, it's a moot point to make bcus every opinion in this thread is biased, if there was any objectivity it probably left the page by like pg 5. it's just weird to go about how my post is biased when you're just straight up calling DPS selfish and rude for pulling ahead lol. but whatever strokes your ego

as the rest, I'm too lazy to reply but ya honestly you just shouldn't care lmao imagine being so tilted at a DPS for pulling that you report them I can't. like I said before in an earlier post I've tanked a lot, never really encountered DPS who was like "you HAVE to do this!" but I guess I'll cross the bridge one day lol. most times if you die to a mob or two most people just go the boring way bcus they'd rather get it over with but idk

also tbh sometimes I hope the DPS pulls if I don't remember where to go in a dungeon lmao

[Ath192]

I understood it just fine lmao my point is, it's a moot point to make bcus every opinion in this thread is biased, if there was any objectivity it probably left the page by like pg 5. it's just weird to go about how my post is biased when you're just straight up calling DPS selfish and rude for pulling ahead lol. but whatever strokes your ego

as the rest, I'm too lazy to reply but ya honestly you just shouldn't care lmao imagine being so tilted at a DPS for pulling that you report them I can't. like I said before in an earlier post I've tanked a lot, never really encountered DPS who was like "you HAVE to do this!" but I guess I'll cross the bridge one day lol. most times if you die to a mob or two most people just go the boring way bcus they'd rather get it over with but idk

also tbh sometimes I hope the DPS pulls if I don't remember where to go in a dungeon lmao

If you understood just fine then I don't know why you go around accusing people of things they didn't do.

As for the rest I've rarely seen a situation blow up so up so big it ends in a kick/report. But I have seen it happen and it usually happens after a death occurs and it is followed up by insults. Saying noone should care about bad DPS behavior is just apologizing and enabling them to do it more often when in fact its wrong. It's like defending a kid that stole candy at a store. Yeah its not a big deal but it is still wrong.

Finally if you hope the DPS pulls for you because you can't hit "M" and open the map for one second you should reconsider using a job whos job it is to be ahead of the group and hold aggro.

[Padudu]

If you understood just fine then I don't know why you go around accusing people of things they didn't do.

i like making people feel spicy

As for the rest I've rarely seen a situation blow up so up so big it ends in a kick/report. But I have seen it happen and it usually happens after a death occurs and it is followed up by insults. Saying noone should care about bad DPS behavior is just apologizing and enabling them to do it more often when in fact its wrong.

It's like defending a kid that stole candy at a store. Yeah its not a big deal but it is still wrong.

lmao i'm not playing to chastise DPS for pulling and we die esp when I don't care. It's a game, it happens, we learn and we move on. I mean obv report if they're being a D about it though, but personally I've never had it really happen

Finally if you hope the DPS pulls for you because you can't hit "M" and open the map for one second you should reconsider using a job whos job it is to be ahead of the group and hold aggro.

sometimes ya girl lazy ya feel, idk as long as they pull the mob back to me makes my job ez, if they don't whatever