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Thread: Toxic DPS

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    Did single pulls back in 2.0 and as I climb to 50, then eventually did wall pulls at 50, and believe me walls pulls were no joke back then. If you're saying you're still learning to tank at 60-70+ doing single pulls, you're having a laugh, or you're giving/obtaining legitimate bad advice.
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    Last edited by Undeadfire; 02-21-2022 at 07:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxel View Post
    Just got out of Saint Mocianne’s Arboretum (Hard) as DRK. Pulled roughly two mobs at a time and at one point a SAM ran ahead and started fighting another mob while I and the team were still dealing with my current pull. I responded “Don’t pull ahead of me, please”. Their response? “Then pull like a man.” I explained I’m not a tank main and going at a pace I’m comfortable with and to not be a dick. They responded “Don’t make me laugh”.
    The last boss they and the rest of the team died to failed mechanics but I managed to solo the boss from about 40%. It felt good, but my mood’s been soured from this toxic DPS. Is their behavior reportable? If not, how do you tank mains go about dealing with it?
    Play however you want, and leave when someone ruins it for you. Life is too short, and you don't log in to serve for someone else's pleasure. You'll get a new group in an instant once your 30m are up.
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    Failure to pull a sufficient number of mobs is still grounds for a kick, and none of the TOS changes would make this any sort of violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDredgen View Post
    What a load of dribble mate.

    And I suppose you were immediately capable of tanking/healing wall to wall pulls, without issue and without compromise, the first time you ever played the jobs in ffxiv?

    Of course you were.

    There are 4 people in a dungeon, if only one of them is actively upsetting the balance and causing issues for the other 3, who exactly is the problem?

    What gives a selfish dps the right to throw the rest of the party into chaos?

    Maybe I should start pulling up all the sub par dps players I get in 95% of my dungeon runs and tell them that if they are not up to performing their role to a high degree then they shouldn't waste my time by queueing up?
    Never said I was. However, when I was new to tanking I spammed early dungeons such as Brayflux, Stone Vigil and Darkhold to practice. This is after I leveled my first tank (DRK) through mostly FATE grinding back when the Yo-kai event first released. Yes, I actually went back and repeatedly spammed "old" dungeons just to better prepare myself.

    If I can do that, why can't you or your friend? Because you couldn't care less about the experience of other players. You say "only one of them" yet ignore the high possibility both DPS want to go faster. In that same scenario you're gonna say "too bad!" Do explain how that isn't selfish, or how it supposedly isn't selfish to queue into 71+ content and expect everyone else to just accept you're new and deal with it?

    What "high degree?" As a tank your buttons literally do not change. As a healer, you might actually have to heal in a double pack pull. If you consider this high intensity gameplay, you aren't ready to tank/heal dungeons above 50. Single pulls reduce tanks to gimped DPS and nothing more. In fact, both roles are so worthless they could be replaced entirely by a DPS and you'd actually go faster. There's a reason you hear several recounts on TalesFromDF where DPS wound up tanking a full pack and the healer slapped a regen on them without worry. I've actually been that healer before. It's incredibly easy to keep a DPS alive in small pulls, especially Melee.

    I do like the emphasise you put on "your time." Of course the DPS' time doesn't matter to you. "Too bad! They should queue as a tank if they wanna go fast." What was that about DPS being selfish?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDredgen View Post
    Like I said, I am more than happy to let idiots like that die.
    And this just makes you a bad tank. You aren't "adapting." You're inflicting a self perceived vendetta against DPS who dared step out of line. They aren't intending to wipe the party by pulling ahead, you are intending to kill them. Therefore, you're the one intentionally griefing not them.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 02-20-2022 at 11:18 PM.
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    Don't know why some people on these forums are on such high horses. Whenever I tank I do my double pulls the same way every time and practically never hear a complaint from anybody, and if someone did complain (which happened only a couple times in the last year), they were simply just trying to stir up something.
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    What kinda bugs me is when I'm double pulling, but apparently auto run isn't enough and I see some DPS sprint ahead of me to pull. I've taken to getting to the last boss and saying "brb dog is acting up" and afking for about 3-5 minutes when they do that.
    I don't have a dog, but everyone seems happy enough to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCopter View Post
    What kinda bugs me is when I'm double pulling, but apparently auto run isn't enough and I see some DPS sprint ahead of me to pull. I've taken to getting to the last boss and saying "brb dog is acting up" and afking for about 3-5 minutes when they do that.
    I don't have a dog, but everyone seems happy enough to wait.
    Or you could also use your abilities, like sprint. You could learn a thing from those DPS but you decided to be trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCopter View Post
    What kinda bugs me is when I'm double pulling, but apparently auto run isn't enough and I see some DPS sprint ahead of me to pull. I've taken to getting to the last boss and saying "brb dog is acting up" and afking for about 3-5 minutes when they do that.
    I don't have a dog, but everyone seems happy enough to wait.
    You refuse to use your tool that provides considerable savings in time and your HP across the gather, and then grief your party if someone else uses that same tool to save the party's time and your HP?
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    Pop Sprint before entering combat so you get the full 20 sec and grab the double packs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatCopter View Post
    What kinda bugs me is when I'm double pulling, but apparently auto run isn't enough and I see some DPS sprint ahead of me to pull. I've taken to getting to the last boss and saying "brb dog is acting up" and afking for about 3-5 minutes when they do that.
    I don't have a dog, but everyone seems happy enough to wait.
    I'm sure those DPS learned their lessons! I know I sure would if some tank pretended to be afk for a pretty valid and relatable reason instead of just calling me out!

    Nice of you to waste the other players time too on top of the one you're salty about, you big baby.
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