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  1. #21
    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    If you want more engaging content as a healer then queue things solo and get matched with random ppl. There's lots of DPS out there that stand in mechanics they shouldn't be, and tanks that think they can mass pull with gear they should have replaced long ago while not using any of their cooldowns... >.>
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  2. #22
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Speak for ya'll selves, I still get nervous having to heal in content, just because of the nature of healing alone. I think the issue they see if healers get more damage spells for rotations then healers in this game would start to focus more on DPS'ing rather than healing which just....negates the purpose of having a healer in the holy trinity the system was made for. I think we've grown too complacent with the idea that "healers are a dps" job when its in their job description to heal not to deal damage.

    This is an extremely BASED opinion on my part though because I'm a controller user andy and having to add more buttons for full on damage rotations alongside your meaty healer toolkit will just overload the cross-bar hotbar setup into a complicated mess.
    Healers are already required to focus on dps'ing due to enrage during prog while healing is kept to a minimum.

    The holy trinity is already in shambles due to them giving tanks healing sustain (except for DKs, oof), and dps' self-healing options.

    Give healing a try in the current end game content, and you'll see you really have nothing to be nervous about. You'll find yourself with nothing to do, but to dps. Then get annoyed that you only have one button to dps with.
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  3. #23
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    aveyond-dreams's Avatar
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Spriggan
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    If the party is wiping I guarantee its more likely because everyone decided to stand in the bad as opposed to a healer not pressing their buttons. Please.
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  4. #24
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    Healers are already required to focus on dps'ing due to enrage during prog while healing is kept to a minimum.

    The holy trinity is already in shambles due to them giving tanks healing sustain (except for DKs, oof), and dps' self-healing options.

    Give healing a try in the current end game content, and you'll see you really have nothing to be nervous about. You'll find yourself with nothing to do, but to dps. Then get annoyed that you only have one button to dps with.
    And I have on both Pandaemonimum and other content synced and its still bonkers and engaging for me. Im just not the "best" healer around in this game. I WISH I could be confident enough in the role to complain about how "stupidly easy and braindead it is" to dps, but like I said, my opinion is extremely based. But I also feel the OP and others's opinions on the issue is also very much based too. I dont think healing is boring at all, as long as everyone is still alive I'm happy.
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  5. #25
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    QooEr's Avatar
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    Qoo Er
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    i love raiding, i love ultimates, but my god what an awful take.
    What about savage recelars? what if i want to farm extremes? what about my dailies? what about the msq?

    what if i DONT want to spend 15 minutes in a single fight only so i actually have to touch aspected helios?

    if only there was a way to make jobs themselves interesting, rather than fights... hm...
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  6. #26
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    Mimilu's Avatar
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    you should take it as a compliment, but you prefer to see maliciousness.
    Just to play devil's advocate here, let me ask: How is telling people bored of playing an entire role to play Ultimate a compliment?
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  7. #27
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    If the party is wiping I guarantee its more likely because everyone decided to stand in the bad as opposed to a healer not pressing their buttons. Please.
    You're just being such a precious one today arent you? I like how you rapidly dismiss others takes with your own opinion with "NOPE" its not healers fault its everyone else. Good for you that you can heal without breaking a sweat, doesnt mean everybody else is also on that same boat with their healing game. But I guess you'll also dismiss me for being a filthy casual who'se opinion doesnt matter because I dont validate yours.

    Thats right Im calling you out................to dinner~
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  8. #28
    Player Anhra's Avatar
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I already gave up any hope on Squeenix part to make any decent adjustments for any improvement on Jobs and Gameplay related aspects of the Game.

    I guess having improved Graphics and only releasing one new Thing after another is more important than keeping the whole Game in check. They even went so far, that they plan on REMOVING fights and replace them with solo instances (like Kap Westwind) instead of making proper adjustments. I am not going to wait for another Year just to have a chance to adress things which ends up being ignored anyway.

    Its a shame that i have to give up my Medium House for this, but im going to give up on FFXIV until they make a proper rework on the Design of Jobs as a whole. This isnt worth 12,99€/Month for me anymore, so Goodbye. "Lets wait and see" has been fun.
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  9. #29
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    As the game moves more and more towards being solo-player-welcoming, one can fairly easily see that giving all players in all classes enough tools to make the MSQ dungeons trust-playable is likely going to become a prime design goal. Any and all tanks can likely think of Cecily's heals (in squadron) and how you basically need to use your own tank healing to stay up.

    There is money in these players who love FF but hate the thought of FFXI and FFXIV because... people.

    One can imagine that with the focus, any call for more challenging healer play will lead to comments about optional content like Savages as the patch progresses as the way to find that challenge.

    But for more engaging gameplay, that's the part Yoshi hasn't addressed, he only addressed challenging.

    They are two separate concepts, even if they do have a little overlap.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  10. #30
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    That sounded so out of touch with what the playerbase wants and how the game is played that for a second I thought I was listening to a WoW streaming, Yoshi P once said that he wonders if the devs of that game even played the game now I wonder if he does the same in ffxiv because that takes screams little to zero experience
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    Last edited by WaxSw; 02-20-2022 at 01:29 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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