Toxic DPS

[Lyth]

I don't think that you can get into trouble as a tank for silently failing to hold mobs. The thing that always gets people into trouble is the stuff that they type into chat afterwords.

The really funny thing is that it's almost never the longstanding tank main who's been doing all their content on tank for years who comes in with this attitude. They're probably so bored of running it that they just want to get in and out as fast as possible, and if the mobs end up on someone else they'll just pick them up instantly on reflex. You're usually done the instance before you realize how efficient they were.

It's that player that happened to gear up a tank with offspec drops and extra tokens, and now thinks that they're a bigshot simply because they've decided to grace your presence as a tank. You can see them from a mile away because they invariably jank tank their way through the instance. Mobs are half health and everyone is mid-burst? Er, I guess I'll start moving to pull the second pack now. I've seen sprout tanks with more common sense.

[VictorTheed]

It is at least a legit reportable case, yes. Your job as a tank is keeping hate on mobs, mitigating damage; in short, keep your party alive within your capability. If you refuse to take aggro from your party members, you are neglecting your job, thus griefing and/or MPK.

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Thats not a tank's lack of doing thier job because a healer or DPS went outside of their role and acted as a tank does, the healer or DPS made the choice to do that so whatever happens is their fault for choosing that choice, the tank didn't choose it for them or tell them to do it.

Now if a tank does a pull and one of the DPS is rocking out powerful DPS and manages to take hate from the tank then yes that would be the tank's responsibility to get it back, cause the DPS was just doing thier job , but the moment u chose to go ahead and aggro something the tank hasn't pulled yet then that 100% your fault, you made the choice, accept the outcome u put upon yourself by assuming a role that you're not.

[DarkDredgen]

Because a full pull causes so many wipes and stress for a "big d***" party?



Given that your "adapting" is to sabotage and kill your DPS by not doing your job... yes. Most definitely yes.

You know what, I actually completely agree.

OK, im about to break out my DPS.

I'm going to bolt straight past the tank and run MT as my dps. I will pull the mobs at my own pace.

If the healer/tank can not rectify or tolerate my d***ish behaviour, it is them being toxic and sabotaging my game.

That makes perfect sense. I totally agree with you. You're a beacon of logic, and I'm glad you helped me see that.

[Aluja89]

You know what, I actually completely agree.

OK, im about to break out my DPS.

I'm going to bolt straight past the tank and run MT as my dps. I will pull the mobs at my own pace.

If the healer/tank can not rectify or tolerate my d***ish behaviour, it is them being toxic and sabotaging my game.

That makes perfect sense. I totally agree with you. You're a beacon of logic, and I'm glad you helped me see that.

Make sure to pop Arms Length.

[Lyth]

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I've seen this one happen a few times. It turns into a competitive race between the tank, the healer, and the dps. And before anyone has a chance to blink, you're all at the end of the instance and you're all grinning like crazy. I love those runs.

[DarkDredgen]

I've seen this one happen a few times. It turns into a competitive race between the tank, the healer, and the dps. And before anyone has a chance to blink, you're all at the end of the instance and you're all grinning like crazy. I love those runs.

Of course you have.

[ArianeEwah]

My friend found this:

[rewd]

You know what, I actually completely agree.

OK, im about to break out my DPS.

I'm going to bolt straight past the tank and run MT as my dps. I will pull the mobs at my own pace.

If the healer/tank can not rectify or tolerate my d***ish behaviour, it is them being toxic and sabotaging my game.

That makes perfect sense. I totally agree with you. You're a beacon of logic, and I'm glad you helped me see that.

Good tanks can't be outpaced because they know sprint exists.

[Izar_Chillen]

What a load of dribble mate.

And I suppose you were immediately capable of tanking/healing wall to wall pulls, without issue and without compromise, the first time you ever played the jobs in ffxiv?

Of course you were.

oh the irony



Nobody was , and that's not the duty type in question the duty was a level 60 post MSQ dungeon


What type of player isn't capable of understanding that big pulls help tanks own CD management , healers for their limted AOE to get the most out of their mana and lower potency and DPS capable big badaboom AOE rotations by lvl 60 ?

[Runeslayer]

The way I see it is your party needs to be all on the same page. I don't care what's optimal and how I should be playing, if any of the supporting roles are uncomfortable doing their job the very least you can do is say so. *If* people carry on with their own devices and overextend despite that, me as a tank will leave them to their own devices in silence.

Yeah we lose time if tanks are not ripping through mobs, but I would rather that and find a sweet spot than rush to a wipe because DPS has lunch in 5 minutes. Beginning of endwalker I felt my healers were asleep as DRK and did wipe a few times I tried pulling above what seemed comfortable. It's important to gauge your limits and not add unnecessary stress to your party.