the sad stat of new glams in 6.0

[Yencat]

Funny you should say that because in all my years I have only ever seen this stated in offhanded remarks. I conclude it doesn't go into the game because I have never been able to verify it.

edit: If I am wrong and it is just that all my search engines are flooded by 14 pages of fan discussion stating such, then I will be pleased.

Even if it was true at some point it doesn't mean it still is anyway, it's not like they're gonna come out and say "Hey guys, as of right now the money you spend on Mogstation isn't 100% going back into the game anymore." I don't know why people take it as the gospel truth in perpetuity, feels less bad to be spending money on Mogstation that way, maybe?

It's a live service game and not a GoFundMe so I don't particularly care if they declare where it's going down to the last cent, clearly not towards glamour or getting the latest races up to snuff though lmao

[LisSquid]

Point in your favor: They have apparently NEVER stated it was exclusive, just that they WANT to use the money to improve the game. However I will say they also have specifically stated that the data center move for NA and the expansion of that data center were done with cash shop money. So you're right in that there is no ironclad statement to nail them down for it and it's possible SE is just pocketing all the money and frittering it away on other projects, it's not like we've never seen benefits from it.. at least we've been told the game benefits from it. We also have a statement from Yoshi (as idealistic as he really is, I get it) stating intent to use the profit for the benefit of FFXIV.

Oh no, I am not saying that none of the profits go back into the game (that would be insane). There's just this belief that since we have more players = more mog station purchases (including more retainers) = more subs = FFXIV now has an even bigger budget than ever. The whole "All profits from mogstation goes into FFXIV" probably comes from that statement where they said the site helped fund the EU DC (IIRC, or it may be the NA expansion as you say) rather than any explicit statement that it actually is an exclusive funnel into FFXIV. It's probably the first pull for when they need cash, but for all intents and purposes it is for SE to fund all of their projects. That just happens to include FFXIV when the moment arises.

Even if it was true at some point it doesn't mean it still is anyway, it's not like they're gonna come out and say "Hey guys, as of right now the money you spend on Mogstation isn't 100% going back into the game anymore." I don't know why people take it as the gospel truth in perpetuity, feels less bad to be spending money on Mogstation that way, maybe?

It's a live service game and not a GoFundMe so I don't particularly care if they declare where it's going down to the last cent, clearly not towards glamour or getting the latest races up to snuff though lmao

Exactly. I'm just sort of tired of the haughty attitude people get when thinking that by them dumping hundreds on the mogstation means SE is going to bestow Yoshi P with a comically large blank check. We've never been told anything more than that the Mogstation has helped FFXIV funding in the past.

The only thing holding the budget for FFXIV is SE, and its their call on what profits can go back into it.

[Enkidoh]

I think things are becoming a touch melodramatic here, as there is more glamour gear added in EW than what was made out - besides the winter coat from Tataru there is also the Ancient robe and it's associated pants and shoes given to you as part of the main scenario after you arrive in Elpis (which is the glam I'm using now), and then there is also the unique starting gear sets for SGE and RPR. And for those complaining about gear reskins of dungeon gear, that's been a thing since ARR when even then most dungeon gear was reskins of old 1.0 gear, apart from the level 15 and level 30ish sets, so this is nothing new.

And we didn't get a level 89 dungeon gear set because we got the AF5 set from Tataru's store at level 89 instead with syncable stats once level 90 was reached as part of an experiment on SE's part - same reason there was no final dungeon gear either, that's your AF5 set. Really, this is why glamour is the real endgame, you don't just get it on a silver platter, you have to work for it (by trial and error experimenting with what you have).

[Iscah]

I'm always up for more looks - I'm surprised there isn't a sub forum dedicated to glamour - I want to see your glamours!

Eorzea Collection is the main place for that, or the assorted "Show Your Character" threads that bob to the top of General Discussion semi-regularly.

[Rowde]

Overall we lost new glam gear option compared to ShB

ShB Combat job glams:
1 White Set (The dwarven stuff)
Ravel Gear
Voebrite Gear
Tome Gear 1
Tome Gear 2
Raid Gear
AF Gear

Which all that we last going from ShB to EW was the one white set, which is down one from what we got in StB. So there has been a steady decrease overtime, probably due to the constantly increasing number of AF gear sets they have to do.

the other poster forgot the 87 dungeon gear.
so that would mean same exact number of new sets at "launch" as ShB then.

[Thi]

the other poster forgot the 87 dungeon gear.
so that would mean same exact number of new sets at "launch" as ShB then.

87 dungeon gear is a reskin. It's the Shadowless gear from Hero's Gauntlet

[Gemina]

Sad state in 6.0? That's not my experience. Not even close. I've been able to take advantage of the 6.0 gear for every job I'm currently playing in EW, and even have some glamours on standby when future jobs/roles gets to the appropriate level:

My WAR is using the i580 axe unglamoured, and the AF pants (best WAR pants to date, easily)
My SCH is using the AF body and boots
My SAM is using AF legs, hands, and katana
My MNK was very recently using the AF body. My retainer brought me a i50 replica pair of pants I've never seen before that caused me to change all my MNK glamours lol
My DNC was in her full AF. YoRHa type 51 coat dyed gold decided otherwise. Still using the giant bow head piece, and might switch back to the boots once I can dye the stuff.

Palaka chest pieces and quite a bit of Imperial gear has made it into my glamour chest. Even some of the leveling gear is gorgeous. Particularly the lv86 sets, which can be a hit or miss; but the ones that hit knock it out of the park.

.... much gear was sacrificed to make room for the 6.0 stuff. Please offer a moment of silence

[Iscah]

I think things are becoming a touch melodramatic here, as there is more glamour gear added in EW than what was made out - besides the winter coat from Tataru there is also the Ancient robe and it's associated pants and shoes given to you as part of the main scenario after you arrive in Elpis (which is the glam I'm using now), and then there is also the unique starting gear sets for SGE and RPR.

The Sophist set is on par with us receiving the Garlean #55 gear in Stormblood and Crystarium guard uniform in Shadowbringers. The Northsea coat feels like a late apology for not getting a gift set from Tataru at the end of 5.55, though (aside of being a reskin) it's disappointing that we didn't get other pieces with it – they do exist! In the later GNB job quests while you're in Ishgard, Sophie has the same coat with matching mitts and boots based on the Highland set. (Though Rielle from the DRK quests has a green-edged Highland smock that seems to also belong with them.)

Meanwhile, the sage and reaper starting gear isn't original at all, though that's standard. Starter gear is always reskins of existing sets. In this case it's the Ruby Cotton Chasuble + Midan aiming(?) boots/gloves for sage and the Void Ark striking coat + Woad boots for reaper. The reaper set looks great but I feel like sage got dudded, because the main piece is already healer gear and not particularly well suited. Alchemist gear would have been great, or something more Sharlayan-themed.

[Thi]

Sad state in 6.0? That's not my experience. Not even close. I've been able to take advantage of the 6.0 gear for every job I'm currently playing in EW, and even have some glamours on standby when future jobs/roles gets to the appropriate level:

My WAR is using the i580 axe unglamoured, and the AF pants (best WAR pants to date, easily)
My SCH is using the AF body and boots
My SAM is using AF legs, hands, and katana
My MNK was very recently using the AF body. My retainer brought me a i50 replica pair of pants I've never seen before that caused me to change all my MNK glamours lol
My DNC was in her full AF. YoRHa type 51 coat dyed gold decided otherwise. Still using the giant bow head piece, and might switch back to the boots once I can dye the stuff.

Palaka chest pieces and quite a bit of Imperial gear has made it into my glamour chest. Even some of the leveling gear is gorgeous. Particularly the lv86 sets, which can be a hit or miss; but the ones that hit knock it out of the park.

.... much gear was sacrificed to make room for the 6.0 stuff. Please offer a moment of silence

Just because you found few pieces out of the AF sets that you like, doesn't mean that there wasn't a severe lack of new options this expansion thus far. And to be fair, we get new AF every expansion so that isn't unexpected.

The problem is its a downward trend of less and less unique sets every expansion.

[Iscah]

And we didn't get a level 89 dungeon gear set because we got the AF5 set from Tataru's store at level 89 instead with syncable stats once level 90 was reached as part of an experiment on SE's part - same reason there was no final dungeon gear either, that's your AF5 set. Really, this is why glamour is the real endgame, you don't just get it on a silver platter, you have to work for it (by trial and error experimenting with what you have).

I know we didn't "need" gear from the 89 dungeon and it was definitely helpful going into the final zone with level 89 gear that would immediately pop up to level 90 strength when you levelled up, but it still makes the dungeon feel lacking. I would have preferred another set of recolours to nothing – something that fits the mood and probably Hydaelyn's white/silver/blue colour scheme. Possibly the Twelve's PVP sets (Halone/Thaliak/etc) or the i240 primal-themed sets.

"Having to work for it" is a poor argument because having a set in a dungeon is and has always been a set to be worked for, needing multiple runs to collect all the pieces, while the job gear is handed to you. There is no reason for me to re-run the Aitiascope because there's nothing there but recoloured Omega jewellery.

And it is still a loss of a set, new or otherwise. In Shadowbringers we had the level 79 dungeon set AND job gear; now we only have job gear.